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broncomitch · Sep 25, 2009

so...i hooked everything back up onto the 351w. for the ignition i just plugged in the distributer and checked my conections....
and tryed to fire it up...it had a hard time turning over and no spark... and the lights where really dim....well i forgot to hook up the ground wire from the batt to the motor.
so hook that up and everything works grate but still no spark.???

I had a blown fuse from the hot wire to my box, so replaced it and tryed to crank it and it popped again...so double check everything and try again...it would turn over but when i stop turning it over it will pop again....well after fighting a fuel problem for almost 2 hours i got it to fire up...it would run for maybe 5-7 seconds then the fuse would pop again???? went through 12 fues's 15's and 20's

i checked out my box and the main ground wire is melted...but its not hot???

i don't get it, everything worked perfectly with the 302...but put the 351 in and i have alllllll cinds of grief!

oh and my exhaust wont bolt up to the 351 ether!

and my transmission is not working as well...i put it in gear and it feels like it go's into gear but i hit the gas and nothing...??????????

broncnaz · Sep 25, 2009

Well I'm not viperwolf but I'll give you some feedback anyways.
What circuit is poping the fuse? you need to check that circuit sounds like its grounding out on you. maybe it was damaged during the engine swap. Check all the wires near that melted ground wire very carefully it may have melted together and is grounding out that way.
If its a stock exhuast for a 302 then yes you wont be able to bolt it up the 351 is wider than a 302. You'll have to do some modifing or grab the exhuast that was bolted to the 351.
Sounds like your torque converter is not enguaging the pump or it wasnt enguaged and you pushed the pump in and now its toast. Did the tranny slide onto the engine easily or did you use bolts to get it to mate up the last little bit.

broncomitch · Sep 25, 2009

well its a Jacob electronics ignition box. (ANYONE HAVE THERE NUMBER?) ill check out the wires tomorrow..

no it didn't, this hole motor swap has been a nightmare.

i had to take the trans out to get it in. after that it went in okay...makbe my converter backed out of the pump???

but its bolted up to the flywheel...?

Viperwolf1 · Sep 25, 2009

What ignition system is it? Sounds like a good short to ground if it's blowing 20 amp fuses.

Make sure your tcase is in gear. I've made that mistake myself before.

broncnaz · Sep 25, 2009

It may be bolted to the flywheel but if the tabs are not enguaged into the pump and you had to use the bellhousing bolts to pull the tranny in it may have damaged the pump. or it may just not be enguaged so its not pumping fluid If you lucky nothings damaged.

oleguy74 · Sep 25, 2009

and yes the 302 stock exh manifold will bolt up.69 351 put in in 1979.works fine.exh pipe also.

broncomitch · Sep 25, 2009

the older, Jacobs pro street ignition.

i think it is,,i got my sticks pulled back as far as they will go...

and my converter did fall out come to think of it..i pushed it back in but i don't think i spun it in.

Viperwolf1 · Sep 25, 2009

broncomitch said:
well its a Jacob electronics ignition box. (ANYONE HAVE THERE NUMBER?) ill check out the wires tomorrow..

no it didn't, this hole motor swap has been a nightmare.

i had to take the trans out to get it in. after that it went in okay...makbe my converter backed out of the pump???

but its bolted up to the flywheel...?

Might want to refer to the wiring diagram and make sure it's hooked up correctly. Here are Jacobs instructions. http://www.accel-ignition.com/InstructionSheetsList.aspx?b2=j

broncomitch · Sep 25, 2009

i didnt change anything or anything tho.. i unplugged the dis and set the wires down till now.

73stallion · Sep 25, 2009

what distributor are you running now?

Mark · Sep 26, 2009

Did you remember that the firing order is different between the 351 and 302?

Socal Tom · Sep 26, 2009

broncomitch said:
i didnt change anything or anything tho.. i unplugged the dis and set the wires down till now.

You should also check the wires for frays pinched etc.
Tom

old number 8 · Sep 26, 2009

If the main ground to your box is melted, it probably happened when you cranked it with your engine ground off. It became the best ground at the time, but couldn't handle the current

If you didn't rotate the converter to re-seat it, your pump and/or converter are damaged. If they aren't, go buy a lottery ticket, it's your lucky day.

Sorry

broncomitch · Sep 26, 2009

old number 8 said:
If the main ground to your box is melted, it probably happened when you cranked it with your engine ground off. It became the best ground at the time, but couldn't handle the current

If you didn't rotate the converter to re-seat it, your pump and/or converter are damaged. If they aren't, go buy a lottery ticket, it's your lucky day.

Sorry

thats what i figured happened..im not sure if my box is toast or just the wires..

its a new pump and converter, i really doubt there hurt at all. this happened to my brothers mustang (c4) and it worked from there on....tho, come to think of it when i was cranking it over i noticed a new noise?

ill call my tranny guy and chat with him about it. but i know thats my problem with the tranny.

broncnaz · Sep 26, 2009

New pump and converter will make no differance at all if you pushed it in and damaged it.They are just as easy to damage as a old one. The only differance is you will feel worse about it because it was new.

broncomitch · Sep 26, 2009

push what in?
the tranny??
i didnt, it went in.... okay. i didnt half to force it in with the bolts, just used the bolts to guide it all in place.

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