VT_Don, nope, not a joke. I've only swapped engines a couple of times. In my mind, I was thinking about sliding the torque converter onto the tranny and how I've been told to make sure it seats (I was successful both times). So, when I went to pull it off the back of the engine, I was thinking about how it just slid on....I had it backwards in my mind. Years ago I was a power plant mechanic, but I've never been an auto mechanic. I just learn as I go. Usually the hard way.