BrncoBasher
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I have a bit of a wheel hop problem in my '72. Lot of people (not really EB people) have told me how to get rid of it. What really is the best cure?
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Wheel hop
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icebreaker88
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I just made on of these single ladder bar setups using a shackle mount and it works great. I tested it out last weekend and did not linit any flex
These pics are from SamsOffroad not mine, but I did the exact same setup as this
These pics are from SamsOffroad not mine, but I did the exact same setup as this
BUCKETOBOLTS
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I second the mono-ladder bar. I built one myself and have been very pleased with the results.
SaddleUp
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Here are some pics of mine. Same basic concept as the one above. Please note though that a single bar will not stop 100% of the wheel hop. It still allows each side to hop back and forth. (I.E. The axle can still pivot in the center) It does stop the axle from wrapping up though which is usually what will get wheel hop started. (I mention this because I noticed that I could get mine hopping when I was digging holes out in the sand) The best option to stop all wheel hop is a ladder bar on each side but that will also limit suspension travel where the single one doesn't. Note: The last picture is of one I sold to another member here.
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scsm76
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Ice breaker and Saddleup are using the best solution in my opinion for a bronco. Even with two ladder bars wheel hop can still occur but eliminating the axle wrap definitly helps dramatically. I have even noticed front axle hop in the sand on a bronco which should have no axle wrap using radius arms.
SaddleUp
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FWIW, the only way I was getting it to hop (And I was also able to do it at both ends) was to unlock one end or the other and intentionally bury it in the sand. Then it didn't start hopping until the frame was down into the sand. I was trying to get it stuck but unfortunately (Or perhaps fortunately) no matter what as soon as I locked the other end in it drove right out.scsm76 said:
icebreaker88
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SaddleUP, Do you get any kind of binding with only using a normal bushing for the frame end of the bar. I am using a J-Joint to allow the twisting (if that is the right way to word it) side to side of the bar.
SaddleUp
Bronco Guru
In a word "No". Or a picture is worth 1000 words. The first picture was taken a few weeks ago at SOB X. (I put the bar on a couple of weeks after SOB 9 last year) The second one is when I replaced the leaf springs that I previously had bent into S shapes. I intentionally left the bar connected when I did so in order to drop the suspension further down than what is possible with it bolted up. (I.E. To verify that there wasn't any binding)icebreaker88 said:
Here are my figures on the ramp between SOB 9 and SOB X. Note that I made 3 changes between that time. I added the traction bar, Replaced the bent leaf springs, and shortened the shackles about 1 1/2" (Because that was how far I had to extend them to sit level with the bent springs).
SOB 9, 37" in front and 47" in back
SOB X, 40" in front and 46" in back
I'm not sure why I gained 3" in front but the 1" loss in back is probably due to the shorter shackle. (Or could be as simple as running different tire pressure this year) I do not believe it has anything to do with the traction bar though.
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scsm76
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"FWIW, the only way I was getting it to hop (And I was also able to do it at both ends) was to unlock one end or the other and intentionally bury it in the sand. Then it didn't start hopping until the frame was down into the sand. I was trying to get it stuck but unfortunately (Or perhaps fortunately) no matter what as soon as I locked the other end in it drove right out."
I think sand is one of the most likely places to see wheel hop, because when you dig holes and start to come out but fall back in gets the bouncing started. Its been a while since I have been out to the sand, but last time I was there I was able reduce all hop but a little when it was completely barried as you described by turning my shocks all the way stiff (RS9000). If I were a sand junky I would probably run dual shocks all the way around but for most of what I do the singles are far superior.
I think sand is one of the most likely places to see wheel hop, because when you dig holes and start to come out but fall back in gets the bouncing started. Its been a while since I have been out to the sand, but last time I was there I was able reduce all hop but a little when it was completely barried as you described by turning my shocks all the way stiff (RS9000). If I were a sand junky I would probably run dual shocks all the way around but for most of what I do the singles are far superior.
SaddleUp
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That might do it. My entire suspension is really soft including only running single shocks. I normally avoid the sand anyway. (Once a year I get down there for SOB but otherwise head for the rocks instead)scsm76 said:
