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Hellwig or W.H. wrap trap on my bronco’s 9''
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Depends on what you're trying to do, since they both serve completely different functions.
If deciding because only one will work (from an interference standpoint) and you need some anti-wrap properties added to your rig, then because you've already got the front anti-sway bar installed, and it does a little more work than the rear, then you can choose the Wrap Trap with a clear conscience.
Mostly...;D
Paul
If deciding because only one will work (from an interference standpoint) and you need some anti-wrap properties added to your rig, then because you've already got the front anti-sway bar installed, and it does a little more work than the rear, then you can choose the Wrap Trap with a clear conscience.
Mostly...;D
Paul
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I did not think about interference. I happen to have both, the rear Hellwig and the W.H. Wrap trap. My bronco is a street vehicle and I need to be as stable as possible. Since the front Hellwig was installed, the front is much more stable.
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They can both still be helpful.
The second anti-sway bar can fine-tune your over-steer/under-steer characteristics, and axle/spring wrap reduction is still a good thing.
All Broncos have axle-wrap to a point, and it's even more with most of the modern springs. But it's rarely such an issue that you have a problem with it. Yes, it'll make the rear more stable and linear, especially under acceleration and braking transitions.
So yeah, it's "a thing" but it's not the be-all and end-all of things.
If they both fit with each other (and I think a couple of members here have done both) then I would do both.
If I had to choose, it might come down to your engine power, transmission type, differential gear ratio, tire diameter, and the weight of your right foot.
So, what's your combo? Sounds like a 4R70 trans? Full EFI as well? Maybe 33" or smaller tires? What gear ratios?
And how do you like to drive?
Paul
The second anti-sway bar can fine-tune your over-steer/under-steer characteristics, and axle/spring wrap reduction is still a good thing.
All Broncos have axle-wrap to a point, and it's even more with most of the modern springs. But it's rarely such an issue that you have a problem with it. Yes, it'll make the rear more stable and linear, especially under acceleration and braking transitions.
So yeah, it's "a thing" but it's not the be-all and end-all of things.
If they both fit with each other (and I think a couple of members here have done both) then I would do both.
If I had to choose, it might come down to your engine power, transmission type, differential gear ratio, tire diameter, and the weight of your right foot.
So, what's your combo? Sounds like a 4R70 trans? Full EFI as well? Maybe 33" or smaller tires? What gear ratios?
And how do you like to drive?
Paul
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I have the 98 Explorer carburated engine with a 570 street avenger, 4r70w, 4:10 front and rear with 30-inch tires. Will go to 31 because of the 1 inch WH body lift.
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Is this the lifted uncut '72 in your sig? Or have you lowered it back down?
Just wondering because with that much lift even a narrow 33 would be a good tire size. Would look good, but likely create more axle-wrap.
With the 4.11's and 31's, even with the newer style springs axle wrap is not going to be a big problem. It's still there, and you an still benefit from the Wrap Trap, but not as much as some. Unless you like racing from stoplight to stoplight, or just have fun with putting your foot into it now and then.
Paul
Just wondering because with that much lift even a narrow 33 would be a good tire size. Would look good, but likely create more axle-wrap.
With the 4.11's and 31's, even with the newer style springs axle wrap is not going to be a big problem. It's still there, and you an still benefit from the Wrap Trap, but not as much as some. Unless you like racing from stoplight to stoplight, or just have fun with putting your foot into it now and then.
Paul
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Yes is the lifted uncut in my signature, just a 1 inch body lift was added. 2.5 WH coils in the front with 3.5 11 pack leaves on the rear with the lowest leave removed, 6 degree shim. thanks for all your help.
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I have both the Hellwig and the WH wrap trap on mine and there is no interference issues at least on mine. Mine has 1 inch body lift, WH 2.5 suspension, 4.11 and 32 inch tires. It drive nice with both on it. It still has some axle wrap when i get on it hard, but has a built 351w with lots of torque.
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Thanks for shsri g your experiences with both. I have bothe setups and will be sharing the experiences.
SteveL
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My bronco is a street vehicle and I need to be as stable as possible.[/QUOTE]
You could always go back to some old rancho springs and some 5000 shocks.
You could always go back to some old rancho springs and some 5000 shocks.
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