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Old 05/19/13, 08:02 PM   #16
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The easiest way would be to use the Explorer accessories, you would effectively be upgrading your alternator and power steering pump that way. You would need to have the balancer re-balanced to 28oz or buy one from Damper Dudes. There are places that do make the trigger wheel if you don't want to go that route, you just have to figure out which method to use to mount it.

As for the Cam sensor, from what I understand MSD makes one or used to, there was mention of another company as well in the 5.0 distributorless thread in the tech section. It has also been rumored that the 3.8 sensor can be used if you make a collar for it, or you can mix and match the 3.8 shaft with the 5.0 housing...So I'm told. I may look in to that later as I have both around here somewhere.

The 351 thing isn't nearly as easy as a 5.0, but it's doable without too much headache.

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Old 05/19/13, 08:13 PM   #17
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Thanks I was thinking about that and figured Ford didn't make one, but maybe the aftermarket did.

Would the Explorer OBDII stuff be better for a modified 5.8 (aluminum heads, GT40 intake, custom cam, 9.5ish c:r), than the OBDI Mustang EFI?

I was told OBDII stuff had much better custom programming available and better diagnostics. This was all info given to me regarding 5.9L Dodge Magnum motor into a hot rod, not Ford stuff. I hadn't looked into OBDII stuff for my upcoming (not very soon)5.7 swap, mostly because the Mustang swap is so well documented, and I've been very happy after putting it on my 302 already.

Just wondering if its worth thinking about using this on my 5.8, or sticking with a custom tuned Mustang ECU and the EFI/wiring harness that is already in my truck (this would be easier- obviously). Do you do anything with custom tunes on OBDI stuff?
EDIT Of course you do I've been watching Airburs thread at ACB.

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Old 05/19/13, 08:47 PM   #18
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There are pros and cons to both, and there are limitations and requirements to what I can do as far as tuning a vehicle that I don't have access to. This one would be better to discuss over the phone for you to make an informed decision. I'll shoot you my phone number via PM.

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Old 05/19/13, 08:49 PM   #19
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Thanks, didn't mean to gum up the thread.

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Old 05/19/13, 09:25 PM   #20
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Thanks, didn't mean to gum up the thread.

No worries, it was good chatting with you.

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Old 05/19/13, 09:37 PM   #21
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So you have peaked my interest

I have a 98 explorer motor on a storage rack, the 2wd 4R70W that was with the motor is ready for a D20. I have the 98 ECM, the engine harness and the tranny harness. But nothing from the firewall into the rig. Do I need more?

How about O2 sensors? How many will your set-up require? Can I keep EGR? (I do plan on using the Explorer exh manifolds)

The 98 has a return line for fuel, will the Mustang 88 lph in tank pump work for this set-up? I am sure I will have more questions...

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Old 05/19/13, 09:38 PM   #22
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Set me up. I have the 99 explorer in the yard and would love a semi- trouble free install.
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Old 05/19/13, 09:39 PM   #23
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Old 05/19/13, 09:40 PM   #24
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Thanks for all your help. We'll be in touch!

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Old 05/19/13, 09:44 PM   #25
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just subscribed as well...

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Thanks I was thinking about that and figured Ford didn't make one, but maybe the aftermarket did.

Would the Explorer OBDII stuff be better for a modified 5.8 (aluminum heads, GT40 intake, custom cam, 9.5ish c:r), than the OBDI Mustang EFI?

I was told OBDII stuff had much better custom programming available and better diagnostics. This was all info given to me regarding 5.9L Dodge Magnum motor into a hot rod, not Ford stuff. I hadn't looked into OBDII stuff for my upcoming (not very soon)5.7 swap, mostly because the Mustang swap is so well documented, and I've been very happy after putting it on my 302 already.

Just wondering if its worth thinking about using this on my 5.8, or sticking with a custom tuned Mustang ECU and the EFI/wiring harness that is already in my truck (this would be easier- obviously). Do you do anything with custom tunes on OBDI stuff?
EDIT Of course you do I've been watching Airburs thread at ACB.
Subscribing as I am in the same boat.....only difference is I am already running Mustang OBD1 setup. I had the OBDII explained to me this way....think of OBD1 as a Commodore 64 home computer and the OBDII stuff as Pentium 1....much faster and more reactive tuning on the fly.

My reason for considering this swap even though I am already running is because I see a 4R70W in my Bronco in the future. I'll take my answers off the air
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Old 05/19/13, 11:10 PM   #27
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I'd be interested in a couple. How much of the harness would you need? I have 11k mile 97 5.0 on a stand with engine and pcm harness. No chassis harness or o2 harness.

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Old 05/20/13, 07:48 AM   #29
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Subscribed. This sounds like a good resource to help get EFI done easily. I have been sloooowly sourcing parts and only have a 1996 Exploer upper and lower intake and throttle body. I also found an A9p ECM. Just need to find fuel rails, injectors, wiring harness etc..

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ok I know I am a little dense some times but I have not been able to find a thread with exactly what is needed to do an EFI conversion. I would love to but dont want to waste my money or time getting the wrong parts. Not trying to hijack this tread, but I think some of us newer owners could use a nudge in the right direction. thanks for the help.

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