Whelp.. Squeal turned into engine torn apart

guidoverduci · Feb 9, 2019

I got it move finally. It was stuck, but a bigger bar helped get it to move. But for some reason the recommended belt, K060825, is not quite long enough.

guidoverduci · Feb 9, 2019

Realized that was for a 302... and I’ve got 351w. Doh. New belt on order

DirtDonk · Feb 9, 2019

Gettin' there!

Paul

guidoverduci · Feb 10, 2019

Close! Just gotta get the power steering hoses squared away. I did have 1 electrical question... I’ve got the alternator all wired up except the original green with red stripe. I believe it just connects to the green / red from the new alt. plug. But before I connect, if I hook up a multimeter, should that wire have any reading with the ign on?

DirtDonk · Feb 10, 2019

Yes, but only with the ignition ON.
When the key is OFF there should be zero volts. With it ON there should be pretty close to battery voltage.

And yes, Green w/red for the old voltage regulator goes to Green w/red for the new one.

Paul

guidoverduci · Feb 15, 2019

Today is start up day! I’m 0-1 so far... seems like it’s getting fuel. Had a burp or 2 out of the carb initially, but nothing anymore after a couple more trys. If I’m 180 off on the distributor... would it not start?

Hozr · Feb 15, 2019

guidoverduci said:
Today is start up day! I’m 0-1 so far... seems like it’s getting fuel. Had a burp or 2 out of the carb initially, but nothing anymore after a couple more trys. If I’m 180 off on the distributor... would it not start?

No. If it's popping out the distributor recheck initial timing. You can also slowly turn the distributor to advance/retard timing while someone cranks. This could help get you to a starting point at least.

DirtDonk · Feb 15, 2019

You can also use a remote starter (or remote method) while the timing light is connected to see what your timing is even during cranking.
This might at least clue you in as to how far off you are. If you don't even see a line anywhere near the pointer, you may be the full 180.
But this will also tell you if you're just a little too far off for efficient starting.

Good luck.

Paul

guidoverduci · Feb 15, 2019

Fired up! Timing was off. Everything sounded great initially.. till the power steering pump started spewing. I’ve got the attached fitting and it looks like the o-ring is chewed up a bit. Maybe I damaged it on install? Now I’m debating getting another o-ring or trying a different fitting with a metal washer. I thought it was strange that it wasn’t just a small leak, but spitting everywhere. I thought for a second maybe it required an additional o-ring around the top, but nowhere does it suggest it...

DirtDonk · Feb 15, 2019

Yikes, what a mess that must've been!
Perfect way to end the day. But hey, it started!

Paul

Hozr · Feb 16, 2019

guidoverduci said:
Fired up! Timing was off. Everything sounded great initially.. till the power steering pump started spewing. I’ve got the attached fitting and it looks like the o-ring is chewed up a bit. Maybe I damaged it on install? Now I’m debating getting another o-ring or trying a different fitting with a metal washer. I thought it was strange that it wasn’t just a small leak, but spitting everywhere. I thought for a second maybe it required an additional o-ring around the top, but nowhere does it suggest it...

Make sure there isn't an old o-ring stuck in there as well. I've seen them come off and you end up double stacking them. I've been running that adapter for years with no issues. A new o-ring should fix it.

guidoverduci · Feb 16, 2019

Right on... Thanks for that!

guidoverduci · Feb 16, 2019

Could it be over tightened? I feel like it got chewed up as I tried to tighten it.

guidoverduci · Feb 16, 2019

Whelp... just when I thought I could kill this thread... I get a setback! I went to torque down the valve covers (3-5 ft lbs as suggested), and my cheap temporary zinc bolt snapped off in the valve cover! Doh!! I needed to order longer good bolts, but thought I could get away with using these. Didn’t think 3-5 ft lbs would do much. The bolt might have been just long enough to bottom out and look close to tight, but a few more easy turns and it just snapped. I haven’t the slightest clue on how to get this thing out?:?

sanndmann3 · Feb 16, 2019

Man, you just can't catch a break!

Drilling it for an easy-out might work but if you break the drill or the easy out, those are real hard to deal with...

guidoverduci · Feb 17, 2019

Bolt out, buttoned up, but no power steering? Could it be air? Do I need to bleed the system any particular way?

Hozr · Feb 17, 2019

guidoverduci said:
Bolt out, buttoned up, but no power steering? Could it be air? Do I need to bleed the system any particular way?

there is a procedure for bleeding steering especially if you have hydroboost brakes. Occasionally a pump will airlock and a soft tap with a rubber mallet (while running) frees it up. You'll watch you power steering fluid disappear real quick when it does!

pcf_mark · Feb 17, 2019

Wheels off the ground, engine off, cycle the wheels back and forth 10 times, press the brakes 10 times. Check the level in the pump. Repeat 10 more cycle of each, check level. Once this is done start it up (wheels still off the ground) and cycle it back and forth a few times and press the brakes a few times. Put it back on the ground and check the level. You should be good now. Maybe a little more will bleed out as a you drive but you should be good to go.

Check your belt tension since you had the front of the engine all apart.

guidoverduci · Feb 17, 2019

pcf_mark said:
Wheels off the ground, engine off, cycle the wheels back and forth 10 times, press the brakes 10 times. Check the level in the pump. Repeat 10 more cycle of each, check level. Once this is done start it up (wheels still off the ground) and cycle it back and forth a few times and press the brakes a few times. Put it back on the ground and check the level. You should be good now. Maybe a little more will bleed out as a you drive but you should be good to go.

Check your belt tension since you had the front of the engine all apart.

I just finished about 20 cycles with wheels off and engine running. Still nothing. Belt tension is good. I’ll try your suggestion now with the engine off and hitting brakes as well. Thanks!

guidoverduci · Feb 17, 2019

Still nothing. When I had it running and I was pressing and releasing the brake, there was a noise. Hard to describe, it almost sounds like a slight engine sputter, but no change in tach reading

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