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Old 05/19/17, 05:52 PM   #1
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Best Aluminum Radiator!!!

Ok, im gonna get the right radiator for the EFI conversion. Wondering what to go with and what others on here like! Especially curious about the Champion radiator. Going into a 5 speed bronco so I don't need the tranny cooler. So lets hear what you all are running to keep things cool!

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Old 05/19/17, 06:21 PM   #2
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Old 05/19/17, 07:10 PM   #3
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You won't find a best aluminum radiator, they don't last more than a year if you use your bronco as a daily driver. Stick with the copper/brass and a crossover tube. My .02.

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Old 05/19/17, 07:17 PM   #4
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You won't find a best aluminum radiator, they don't last more than a year if you use your bronco as a daily driver. Stick with the copper/brass and a crossover tube. My .02.

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94 explorer radiator
Cheap, disposable and easily replaced just about anywhere.

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Old 05/19/17, 07:38 PM   #5
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You won't find a best aluminum radiator, they don't last more than a year if you use your bronco as a daily driver. Stick with the copper/brass and a crossover tube. My .02.

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>>> really.... my aluminum radiator been working fine since '04 & has a little over 30,000ish miles on it.... it's a AFCO brand purchased from Duff's back when, no idea what brand they sell now.... of course now it probably will fail ,better knock on some wood.... when it does fail, I planned on trying the explorer radiator....
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Old 05/19/17, 07:44 PM   #6
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But Blu, the last time I went to a rad shop, a stock replacement was far more expensive but essentially identical to the part store rad. Once I started asking about anything like heavy duty cooling the price jumped even more.
That price point forced me to buy the Duff 4 core rad I still have today. Its lasted about 24 years so far.

But I see the logic in checking with your local rad shop. I did and here in O'Town the price pushed me to Duffs.
Much fewer rad shops here now....but its been a quarter century...and things change...

I also see the logic in the Explorer Radiator. Somehow that dinky thing keeps our eb's cool and you can often get them at your local parts store for $120 bucks.

I even see the logic in the $150 dollar Champion. A relatively cheap experiment that has worked well for some.

I struggle with the logic of the Vendors Ron Davis, Be Cool, Etc...radiators that often push the $400 dollar mark. They look beautiful though,,,,

For that kind of money I'd get a copper/brass triple pass....

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Off my radiator soap box...lol

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Old 05/19/17, 07:50 PM   #7
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I live in Tucson Arizona (Hot desert) and my cheap aluminum Champion radiator from ebay has been amazing and durable
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Old 05/19/17, 08:16 PM   #8
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I was part of the Champion radiator mass buy, I bought the one for the explorer conversion, and even though the neck is like the original radiator, on the passenger side, It has worked as it should.

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Old 05/20/17, 06:30 AM   #9
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Most aluminum radiators are thicker than original and you have to use a skinny Flex Fan and/or an electric fan to help it cool.

I am in hot, humid Florida. The best combo for me has been an original copper radiator with a F-Series serpentine (same depth as original v-belts) 1/2 spacer and rigid mechanical fan. Minimal trimming of the stock fan shroud is the only mods needed. This combo has been installed in front of a very nice 351W with NO issues.

The only 5.0 conversion radiator that I have seen with the thickness the same as original is the aluminum radiator that Toms Bronco has. This seems to be a very good option because you can still use a rigid mechanical fan without clearance issues. If anyone has used this radiator I hope they can chime in.

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Old 05/20/17, 06:40 AM   #10
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Most radiator shops I have dealt with the "cooling expert" knew how stuff cooled 40 years ago and all the advancements since then that work great are "junk". Probably because they can't fix them with a roll of solder and a blow torch.

Modern cooling systems are great. They do a great job of cooling massive HP numbers in simple lightweight and compact radiators. They last as well. Most modern vehicles will never need a radiator (or even a service) in the life of the vehicle, which has about doubled since the old days.

Just follow modern installation practice. Use the super floppy rubber mounts, don't attach them rigid.

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Old 05/20/17, 04:36 PM   #11
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No worries with my Champion. I can sit in traffic on a summer day with AC blasting. I've had it for a year but it seems pretty stout.

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Old 05/20/17, 04:43 PM   #12
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The radiator that i currently have is aluminum and it has been fine. The only real issue is the reversed inlet and outlet that I currently have and as a result the crossover leaks a little bit hear and there but it makes a mess.

Will look at the options!

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Old 05/20/17, 07:53 PM   #13
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Why does your EFI need a different radiator? I still have the v-belts and a stock type aluminum replacement radiator.





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Old 05/20/17, 09:46 PM   #14
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Do I need a new radiator? I guess in reality No! However, the main reason for the replacement is that I switched to the serpentine setup off of the explorer and ideal in and out for the EFI are opposite of the stock setup on the bronco. Can you make it work with the original radiator sure however, the big compromise is on the bottom where you need the stupid crossover tube and that is just a spot for issues if you ask me. Maybe I have to take a look at the parts store one more time to see if there might be a better option to eliminate the crossover tube all together! I don't really wanna spend the money but honestly tired of my truck looking like a grease monkey underneath considering it is all practically new asside from some nicks and scratches that will be addressed eventually!

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