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My name is Eric; I'm a design engineer for Painless Performance. I am in the process of re-designing our bronco harness, which may now in fact be 2 seperate harnesses ('66-early '71 and late '71-'77) to accomodate the 2 seperate fuse block locations. Any input members of the forum have on what they would like included in the harness, omitted, or anyhting else involving this re-design, is greatly appreciated. I am currently designing the late '71-77 harness, thanks to a member on the forum for the '71 loaned to me.
Now to the issue at hand: I was wondering if any members here could share pictures or possibly even take some of any of the switch connectors located behind the dash The main things I am looking for are headlight, turn signal, wiper switch, wiper motor. This will help me to identify connectors so I can include all the connectors I can with the new harness. So if you could, could you post up the pics and list what the connector goes to and what year model. I'm sure this is just a starter for the many questions I will have over the next few weeks. Thanks in advance.
Bumping this post to the top. It was accidentally flagged by the forum spam filter, so didn't show up the first time. Sorry about that Eric and welcome to the site.
Sorry, I don't have pics of the under dash components. What I think would be a major plus is having the under dash harness detachable from the rest of the harness through a bulkhead type of connector. This would allow us to remove the dash without having to disconnect a dozen different connectors.
I second that Idea. Let me know when its done and Ill order one. (Promise) I have been doing a bit of electric work lately and seriously considering getting a new harness just for piece of mind. I am also talking about building a new dash with new gauges. Perfect time to do it at once.
69 Bronco 351W, NP435 w/ gearbanger, Dana 44 Disc with Detroit(front), 9" with spool(rear), 3.5 james duff suspension with 2 inch body, 35x14.5 pitbull rockers, 8 point cage, guardian prerunner front bumper with winch, guardian rear bumper, hunsaker racing seats
I don't understand why anyone would want the fuse block on the firewall (66 -71). I have a 70 and would much rather have it in the glove box or kick panel, some place easy to get to.
Why not just make one harness?
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine, 1776
I don't understand why anyone would want the fuse block on the firewall (66 -71). I have a 70 and would much rather have it in the glove box or kick panel, some place easy to get to.
Why not just make one harness?
I think the bigger issue shouldn't be the fusebox location but rather where the harness enters the engine compartment. Early years and later years are different in that aspect along with the fuse box. You are right that in the glove box would be better....
1972 Bronco: 170, np 435, and 35's. Crawler
1970 Bronco: 302, 3 speed, and Uncut. Cruiser
Glovebox would be OK if the fusebox was covered. I don't like to carry metal objects in there now. That's probably why they called it a glovebox and not a toolbox though.
74 Sport U151, 5.0 must-plorer EFI, C4, PS, front discs, twin sticks, 3.5" susp/1" body, 33's, 4.11's, ARBs, Hickey Sidewinder
Don't know if these help or not but figured I would try anyway. Make sure to let us know when they are going to hit the market and maybe think about fixin us up with a mass buy. I'm getting ready to start my dash soon and plan on a new harness when I do it.
Pic of the gauge cluster would be opposite of the back of the cluster obviously. One pic is wiper switch andn other is ignition.
If the pics are not self explanatory just ask.
Eric,
Here you go, This is a harness off one of my 77s. You can see it is still in good shape with all the main connectors intact, some individual leads were spliced.
I tried to get most pics of the dash connectors.. I'm sure you can make them out. If you have questions about them let me know..
Aloha,
Honorio aka madgyver
BTW, Eric, If you want I could send this stock 77 harness out to you for you to disect and go through it for reference. I won't need it for awhile. Give me a call on my cell. I'll be flying out to Maui in a few hours for work..
I don't understand why anyone would want the fuse block on the firewall (66 -71). I have a 70 and would much rather have it in the glove box or kick panel, some place easy to get to.
Why not just make one harness?
Like it was mentioned, there will be 2 harnesses because of the different routing through the years. That seems to be the biggest complaint we get, people want the way the factory did it. While I can't say I always agree, people always want it the way the factory did it. Someone with a '66-early '71 could certainly use the late '71-'77 harness. All some one would have to do is make an extra hole in the firewall, cut a hole in the glove box, and cover the hole left from the factory fuse block. At this point every thing else seems to be the same. Late '71 had the early hazard switch position and turn signal connector, that's the 2 biggest differences I can think of right now. I'm sure there are a couple others.
Also, both fuse blocks in the harness will be weatherproof (sealed and covered). There is one main 20 circuit fuse block, and a smaller 3 circuit fuse block, 2 circuits of which will be for power when the ignition switch is in the ACC. position. Our main 20 circuit is bussed internally which makes it either constant or switched depending on how you power each side of it. Both fuse blocks will use mini fuses.
The recommendation on adding the connectors to separate the dash harness have been noted. I can not say yes or no to it being added yet though.Those types of connectors can be very expensive.
Honorio, I'll get in touch with you about that harness. It'd be great to have that one here.
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I have a harness out of a 70 (I think). I won't need it for a couple months or so (if at all since I would rather use new). If I can figure the year you could probably use it also. PM me if you need it. I think I even have most of the wires tagged.
Like it was mentioned, there will be 2 harnesses because of the different routing through the years. That seems to be the biggest complaint we get, people want the way the factory did it. While I can't say I always agree, people always want it the way the factory did it. Someone with a '66-early '71 could certainly use the late '71-'77 harness. All some one would have to do is make an extra hole in the firewall, cut a hole in the glove box, and cover the hole left from the factory fuse block. At this point every thing else seems to be the same. Late '71 had the early hazard switch position and turn signal connector, that's the 2 biggest differences I can think of right now. I'm sure there are a couple others.
Thanks for clearing that up.
For me, it is worth the extra effort to have the fuse block easier to get to.
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine, 1776
for me with a 77
I would want to keep the fuse panel in the stock location on the side of the glove box. I don't mind a little bigger fuse panel, and since we have a carboard , or in my case a plastic glove box liner, it isn't really any problem to cut a bigger hole in the side.
Also I don't know what year, but I know my 77 has the hazzard switch in the steering collumn
It also would be cool is you could make a option for those of us who have replace out factory speedo/guage cluster, with aftermarket gauges. Something like a plug for the fan control, the headlight, wiper switch, and fuel guage. Then just include a wire for the lights for the aftermarket gages lights, and a wire to a aftermarket volt guage.
That could be a good option for any year bronco
1977 Bronco - 340 HP Ford Racing 5 Liter - NV3550/Hurst Shifter - 456 Gears - 3.5 Suspension lift - one inch body lift - twin shift - 35 M/T MTZ's - 15.23@89.56 MPH
