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Old 08/02/17, 09:20 PM   #31
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Interesting top strap on the driver's side of the radiator. Is that hole a Stroppe thing for lightening things up?
Or is it just a fluke?

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without a picture reference it's hard to know exactly what you are talking about but I did check all pics on the thread and noted there was a strap about 4/5" of the way up the radiator holding it to the core support. No top brackets. Not a stroppe thing, but looks like a "I dont have radiator brackets anymore I need this thing to run" style bracket? From Toddz pics sitting in the yard semi-repaired.

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Old 08/02/17, 09:34 PM   #32
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Post #8, second of Todd's images. The top of the radiator, just at the upper hose inlet.
At first glance, it almost looks like a filler neck was lost. But the piece of metal in question is the top "brace" soldered to the top of the side tank, and extending over the top of the core to create the top mount flange.

Sorry don't have the usual red circle from Paint, or Ink, or PhtotShop or whatever people use for that.

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Old 08/03/17, 08:03 AM   #33
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Well done, well done. Any updates?
I was waiting on those updates too...

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Old 09/02/17, 07:00 PM   #34
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Sorry guys I'm way overdue for an introduction and status of the project. My son and I have been very busy de-F'ing this thing just to make it road worthy. That radiator bracket is just one tick in a long list of cobbled up things I've been busy fixing. I actually drove it to work last Friday the longest its traveled since taking delivery. More to come, I promise...

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Old 09/03/17, 10:14 AM   #35
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Glad to hear. Keep at it an feel free to fire away any questions/etc. Congrats on the first drive!! Do list the cobbed up stuff...we all get a chuckle out of those. I should post up some of the things I found on my old 2008 find of a Stroppe racer....the PO was very handy!

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Old 05/27/18, 04:19 PM   #36
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Coming up on a year already !

...so here's a brief overview of the last 10 months.

I bought it sight unseen, was very nervous doing so, much out of character for me to say the least but the opportunity came up as we were pulling out of the driveway for a 2 wk trip through Yellowstone. Seller answered many questions, sent photos, and seemed to be on the up and up. Helped that it was in the registry.

Upon delivery I was pleased with the body, paint, and overall condition. But it was obvious the previous owner may not have had the skills or attention to detail that I typically put into things. As he put it it was an occasional driver to take the grand kids for ice cream. It did have a new 347 crate motor but needed sorting out.

First drives were entertaining to say the least. The steering had an honest 1/2 turn of deadband, binder style driving required! No power brakes which for me was a surprise back to my younger years. The cam had way too much duration for the torque converter, didn't want to idle in gear. None of the dash lights, gauges, or turn signals worked. The list continues but you get the idea.

So the plan for the fall was to get it sorted out to make it driveable. Removed a lot of cobbled overlayed wiring. Installed power brakes. Rebuilt the steering column, i-shaft, replaced steering box with a rebuilt 4 turn unit, and a new drag link to get the steering back to something not so white knuckle. Fixed oil leaks which included going through the t-case. It actually drives rather well now for an old truck. Oh and the rear axle was loose to the springs!

At this point I could hop in it and drive it on the weekends and to work at will without too much worry. The bumpity bump cam was about the only negative for drivabilty at this point but got lots of thumbs up.

So what to do next, what's the plan / vision for a 73 Stroppe that is pretty solid but probably never going to be a concourse truck ?

Stay tuned, we've done quite a bit and I have photos to share....

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Old 05/27/18, 07:37 PM   #37
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Thanks for the update Mike.
Have a great Memorial Day!

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Old 05/27/18, 08:29 PM   #38
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Nice, awaiting more pics!

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Old 05/27/18, 08:30 PM   #39
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So the short list of to do's was the following:

1) Replace the Centerline wheels with period correct slots and fresh rubber - Done
2) Replace aftermarket hood with something stock or stock looking
3) Replace soft top with the correct hardtop
4) Replace dune buggy-ish bucket seat with the originals that came with it - Done
5) Remove B&M auto floor shifter and reinstate column shifter - Done
6) Replace fiberglass grill with OE metal grill
7) Replace cam with something more appropriate for an offroad / driver application
8) Convert to power brakes - Done


As it sat last fall it looked like this.
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Old 05/27/18, 08:54 PM   #40
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My long term desires are to make it a great driver but maintain the Stroppe heritage. Not interested in turning it into a $80-130k Mecum dream. I've done enough nut & bolt restorations to have that out of my system. Fun as hell during but what do you do once done. The family approval for a new project was also that it had to be a driver and not a show queen.

So here's a few photos of some of the crazy stuff we've been fixing and its progress through the winter and spring.

When you pull the battery hold down out of the tray poke it through the core support and weld it to the other hold down.
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Old 05/27/18, 09:01 PM   #41
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The goofy buckets and shifter that had to go, and the Exxon Valdez transfer case before and after. The seals in this thing were harder than....well you fill in the blank. It was pumping trans fluid into the t-case and then hemorrhaging ATF.
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Old 05/27/18, 09:31 PM   #42
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I have more photos I'll have to dig up of some of the cobbled things we fixed.

The bigger question is how far to go. In an effort to put the stock hood on it was quite apparent that I needed the correct grill as the fiberglass grill had no hood latch system. Also the the engine compartment had been sprayed with some kind of texture which I didn't like. The core support was rust free but had taken a beating over the years.

I also wanted to get the cam swapped and the engine painted the correct color and back to looking somewhat original.

And then the big one that will probably make the purist gasp...I wanted a modern manual trans. I hate 3 spd autos.

So off with the front clip and out with the motor / trans. This has been, the majority of the winter work.





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Old 05/28/18, 08:00 AM   #43
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Looks like great progress Mike! I share your vision for a driver Stroppe that's never going to be a trailer queen. I also want a 5 speed stick but I think I'll do that in my other Bronco & keep the C4 in the Baja.

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With the motor out and front clip off we stripped the firewall and cowl removing all the paint and old seam sealer. Everything is really solid, the worst spot I found was under the air box and it really only needed cleaned up with the wire wheel. Looks worse than it was in this photo. The cowl top seam under the windshield was in very good shape. Only needed the seam sealer dug out and cleaned up with the wire wheel. I did thin out some POR15 and let it seep into the seam before a new bead of urethane seam sealer.

Fire wall, cowl top, sides, and back side of door posts are now stripped to bare metal, cleaned, epoxy primed and ready for paint.
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A lot of work, looking good

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