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Custom Bumper & Spare Build - FINALLY FINISHED!

Tedster100

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Finally got around to starting my rear bumper / tire carrier & thought I'd post the progress. Got the general shape cut out and notched out for the receiver hitch. Yes, it's one heavy piece of steel, 3/8" thick 3"x7" box. It was a piece I got real cheap and the weight will help balance out my large front bumper with winch. I'm planning on adding a swing away carrier with hiem joints but I'm going to try something very different in the design to keep it looking clean and be very strong.
 

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Got the insert steel ready to fill it in. Going to weld the receiver hitch tube from the inside and out to restore the strength to the center of the bumper before I weld it closed again. Also started making the support for the tire carrier. With any luck the tire will sit pretty close to the body and in the cut out section of the bumper.
 

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Yes, a mill and plasma cutter are very handy tools! Mine's just a small mill-drill machine and I use the crap out of it. Got the hiem joint carrier done and started on the tire carrier itself over the past week. Welded up the hitch tube and the tire carrier portion of the bumper tonight.
 

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More pics...
 

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Yea, been busy with work but I'm getting a couple late night hours in here and there. Got all the carrier work done, fitted and welded. Made the spare tire mount, it's designed for a 33" or 35" spare depending on which way you mount the tire mounting piece in the carrier. Cut and fit the plate to fill in the open parts of the bumper and welded the receiver tube inside and out. Started all the finish welding and grinding. Once I get all the welding done and fitted it will be time to locate it on the frame and get the mounts made and welded up. Then I'll make the latch and it should be done.
 

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Do you think those two heims will support a tire? Have you considered those spindle kits with bearings that a lot of the vendors like Rusty's and A to Z Fab?

Awesome build. I love the shape and center cutout.
 
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Do you think those two heims will support a tire? Have you considered those spindle kits with bearings that a lot of the vendors like Rusty's and A to Z Fab?

Awesome build. I love the shape and center cutout.

I actually started the build around using a spindle and bought the spindle and bearings. After looking at various designs and talking to Ransil who told me he had seen one of the spindles snap I decided to go the heim joint route. I don't plan on putting enough stress on the carrier to damage it but you never know. The other consideration was being able to adjust it. Once the spindle and carrier are welded in they really can't be adjusted much, especially if it moves a little under the weight of the tire. I'll have the ability to spin the joints 1/2 turn at a time to adjust if needed.

The joints are 3/4 - 16 thread with a 3/4 bore for a grade 8 3/4" bolt, others I have seen appear to be 5/8. The heim joints I picked up at Summit http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CEE-6162/ are rated for over 23,000 lbs. Assuming the carrier weighs 40# and the tire weighs 90# and that weight is applied at a distance of approx 30" from the pivot the effective weight would be 130# x 30" long / 3.5" high = 1114 # on the heim, if the latch works well to secure the other end there shouldn't be any dynamic load but even if there was and it was 3x the static load there would still be a pretty good factor of safety. At least it sounds good... We'll see, I'm almost ready to put it together and I plan on standing on it to see how much it may sag so I can plan the latch and keeper accordingly.

The cut out was challenging but I wanted to do something kind of unique and my goal was to keep the tire centered on the body without obstructing too much of the view and keeping it tucked in as close to the gate as possible. I'm also thinking of mounting a Jerry can to the right of the tire. Thanks for the feedback, and hey what do you think for a finish. I'm thinking of Herculiner for the bumper and Por-15 for the carrier portion, but I'm also considering powder coating, any thoughts?
 

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Are you going to weld on a bump stop, or use a poly bushing to stop the tire carrier when it swings to fully open? From my vantage point (only looking at your photos) it looks like the cut-outs in the pivot upright will contact the threaded portion of the Heim joints. I'd be concerned that over time this will either mash your threads which could limit adjustability in the future, or weaken the joints themselves with the shearing effect.

Something like this mounted so it contacts a solid surface on your carrier.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-9-9121G/
 

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I actually started the build around using a spindle and bought the spindle and bearings. After looking at various designs and talking to Ransil who told me he had seen one of the spindles snap I decided to go the heim joint route. I don't plan on putting enough stress on the carrier to damage it but you never know. The other consideration was being able to adjust it. Once the spindle and carrier are welded in they really can't be adjusted much, especially if it moves a little under the weight of the tire. I'll have the ability to spin the joints 1/2 turn at a time to adjust if needed.

The joints are 3/4 - 16 thread with a 3/4 bore for a grade 8 3/4" bolt, others I have seen appear to be 5/8. The heim joints I picked up at Summit http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CEE-6162/ are rated for over 23,000 lbs. Assuming the carrier weighs 40# and the tire weighs 90# and that weight is applied at a distance of approx 30" from the pivot the effective weight would be 130# x 30" long / 3.5" high = 1114 # on the heim, if the latch works well to secure the other end there shouldn't be any dynamic load but even if there was and it was 3x the static load there would still be a pretty good factor of safety. At least it sounds good... We'll see, I'm almost ready to put it together and I plan on standing on it to see how much it may sag so I can plan the latch and keeper accordingly.

The cut out was challenging but I wanted to do something kind of unique and my goal was to keep the tire centered on the body without obstructing too much of the view and keeping it tucked in as close to the gate as possible. I'm also thinking of mounting a Jerry can to the right of the tire. Thanks for the feedback, and hey what do you think for a finish. I'm thinking of Herculiner for the bumper and Por-15 for the carrier portion, but I'm also considering powder coating, any thoughts?

Paint or powder i have not seen a heruliner job I liked..

That is going to be one heavy bumper, did you weight it yet?? I'm guessing 150 lbs

Welding the tire carrier to the bumper may not be enough, it may fatigue after a while, the tire tends to put alot of pressure on the mounting point.

i didn't show you the bumper along side the garage in the scrap pile.
 
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Are you going to weld on a bump stop, or use a poly bushing to stop the tire carrier when it swings to fully open? From my vantage point (only looking at your photos) it looks like the cut-outs in the pivot upright will contact the threaded portion of the Heim joints. I'd be concerned that over time this will either mash your threads which could limit adjustability in the future, or weaken the joints themselves with the shearing effect.

Something like this mounted so it contacts a solid surface on your carrier.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-9-9121G/

Actually, the way it's designed the heim joint will contact the carrier and act as a stop. The support is milled so the radius of the cut out and the diameter of the 3/4" bolt are the same. With this configuration the gate would not open if it were the jam nuts were any closer to the pivot end of the heim joint so those threads really don't matter and it's only about 3/8" anyhow. I still have a lot of possible adjustment by backing them out and adjusting the jam nut closer to the carrier. With the heim joints rated at 23,000 lb capacity I'd be hard pressed to bend them up if it swung open. It would be like trying to bend two 3/4" grade 8 bolts at the same time.
 
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