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Carb Leaking, What to Check?

DSJW

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Aug 17, 2009
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Hi All,

I have a 2100 on a 77 302 w/automatic trans and dual gas tanks. My version of the 2100 has the choke pull-down at the back of the air horn where the secondaries would be if it was a 4100. The carb has been starting and running great but I had a weird problem yesterday. I'm on vacation and tried to start the Bronco after three days of sitting, no action, so I pump the pedal once, no action, I pumped the pedal twice, no action. I used some starting fluid, slight action, more starting fluid and the Bronco starts, not happy w/lot's of black smoke and lot's of stuttering but after a few minutes purring away.The Bronco runs and starts without any problem since.

When I go back up front to put the air cleaner back on I see lot's of raw gas at the rear of the carb filling the pockets formed by the intake manifold (yes I wiped all that out before doing anything else, LOL). Before putting the air cleaner back on I push and pull every lever I can find several times but I can't make anything leak.

I brainstorm with a friend who is an old-fashioned gearhead and he suggests that since it has been over 100 degrees for the last few days that the pressure in the gas tank has somehow forced gas out of the carb and onto the manifold, and likely into it as well which would explain the hard start and black smoke. He suggests that I pop off the gas caps while the Bronco is sitting during the hot days and see what happens. I tried it and what happened is that there was no gas leaking from the carb and it started just as easily as it ever did.

So what should I be checking??? I have the charcoal filter box connected to the air cleaner, from the box there is a rubber hose that runs to a white plastic valve(?) on the frame, and then back to the main tank(?). Looking forward to hearing your thoughts as the idea of leaving the gas caps loose in really hot weather is not too appealing, LOL. BTW, this has never happened before in similar hot weather conditions.

Thank you for your thoughts, comments, and help!
 

broncnaz

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Most likely your needle seat had something stuck in it. Causing it to flood out then the debris cleared and now its fine. When a carb floods gas will tend to come out the throttle shafts and fill up the spaces on the manifold.
Might be a good idea to get a rebuild kit for the carb you'll have a new needle seat assembly ready to swap in. They do get old and start to leak as time goes by.
 

67RT

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That is it. It probably will keep leaking out of the vent, so don't ignore or your truck will burn. Mine did the same. Rebuild it and clean it out well as the float is overflowing...
 
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DSJW

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Thanks guys! Sounds like overpressure on a hot day is not the issue, a dirty needle seat is the culprit. The pooled gas sitting on the intake manifold at the BACK of the carb really threw me. I have been keeping an eye on it and it has not happened again. I will get a rebuild kit and open it up.

You Guys Are Great, Thanks!
 

67RT

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change your fuel filter after rebuild and maybe drop tank and clean, change sender sock... Blow out line all the way back from pump with carb cleaner. One tank??
 
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DSJW

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change your fuel filter after rebuild and maybe drop tank and clean, change sender sock... Blow out line all the way back from pump with carb cleaner. One tank??

Two tanks, so clean both.
 

jckkys

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Cleaning out the tanks with no more than one incident of the float bowl overflowing is an extreme reaction. If you ever have to remove even one tank to clean it out you'll agree. A piece of whatever big enough to hold the needle valve open couldn't pass through the cheapest fuel filter. It's unlikely to happen again unless teflon tape was used on the pipe thread on the filter. I've done that; lesson learned. If and when the pickup filter in the tank gets plugged up, the tank WILL need a clean out. The '77 has a plastic main tank, so it's cleaner than steel ones, but rust etc. in the underground tank still gets in there.
The tanks on '77s are vented so pressure shouldn't be a problem. All in all, no action on your part is needed at this time. Again, engine fires are a real PITA, so if you smell gas; turn the ignition off right now.
 
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