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Houston carb gurus...Pic added

broncow72

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Any you carb gurus have some free time this weekend? I need to get the carb adjusted so I can get the truck pulled in and out of the garage for more work to be done.


TIA
Alan
 
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blazinchuck

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what kind of carb...I know on the holleys, the rule of thumb is turn everything in and then back the adjusters out about 1.5 turns..should get things running. I know, I'm not Houston, but thought it would help,Chuck
 
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It's a carter (edelbrock).
I have the basics, but would like someone with a bit more knowledge to assist or pat out my eyebrows if I set them ablaze.
 

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It's a carter (edelbrock).
I have the basics, but would like someone with a bit more knowledge to assist or pat out my eyebrows if I set them ablaze.

If I was going to stay in town this weekend I would help out. I can give you some rules of thumb that I use.

First check the timing?
If you have points you might wanna check them.

Then check to see what the setting on the adjustment screws. Probably 2-1.5 turns.

I start with them backed out a little 2-3 turns. Then I turn each screw 1/8 to 1/4 in at the same time until the engine peaks out rpm wise. As you screw the adjustments in the engine will increase in rpm to a point then it will decrease. You want to find that point.

From that point I back my screws out 1/8 to 1/4 turn each.
 
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If I was going to stay in town this weekend I would help out. I can give you some rules of thumb that I use.

First check the timing?
If you have points you might wanna check them.

Then check to see what the setting on the adjustment screws. Probably 2-1.5 turns.

I start with them backed out a little 2-3 turns. Then I turn each screw 1/8 to 1/4 in at the same time until the engine peaks out rpm wise. As you screw the adjustments in the engine will increase in rpm to a point then it will decrease. You want to find that point.

From that point I back my screws out 1/8 to 1/4 turn each.

Good stuff. Think I'll print that out and start there.
I'm running a duraspark dizzy with an MSD so the points are no longer an issue (thank God). Things have just sat for too long and I want to get the carb to run/start on a regular basis so I can get back into the project while the weather is favorable.
I will check the gas in the tank also. It's been in there for a while but fotunately not too much. And I do have an aftermarket tank with a drain plug.
I fugure I'll get 5-10 gallons of high octane to offset the age of the existing (depending on smell) and dump in some sta-bil for preventative measures. And also get a can or two of carb cleaner to help clean out some of the schmutz.
 

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If I was going to stay in town this weekend I would help out. I can give you some rules of thumb that I use.

First check the timing?
If you have points you might wanna check them.

Then check to see what the setting on the adjustment screws. Probably 2-1.5 turns.

I start with them backed out a little 2-3 turns. Then I turn each screw 1/8 to 1/4 in at the same time until the engine peaks out rpm wise. As you screw the adjustments in the engine will increase in rpm to a point then it will decrease. You want to find that point.

From that point I back my screws out 1/8 to 1/4 turn each.


Good advice.

If you want to "tweak it" later on....you can use a vacuum gauge to monitor it instead of listening for engine rpm.

Otherwise, do as instructed above.

Check timing first.
 
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Good advice.

If you want to "tweak it" later on....you can use a vacuum gauge to monitor it instead of listening for engine rpm.

Otherwise, do as instructed above.

Check timing first.

Well, wouldn't you know it... I have a vacuum guage in my garage... How do I use it? What port should I plug it into? What am I looking for?

Oh, and if anyone is interested locally. This could be a good learning experience. We could figure this out together for both our needs.
 

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Hey Broncow,

I am certainly a carb novice but was able to get mine running pretty good using a vacuum guage. It was running way too rich before and now it's pretty solid...at least I think it is. I went to the Holly web page and looked up my carb. they had some info about how to adjust it and I followed those directions using the cage. Basically adjusted it until I got the strongest vacuum and that seems to have worked pretty well. No more stalling even on steeper climbs. And way less smelly and starts very easily now, even after sitting for over a month.
 

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Well, got it started today. Found some issues also. First off I wanted a tach I could read in the engine compartment so I went looking for a dwell meter at the local parts houses... First place I went the kid said "I aint ever heard of a weld meter". Then I asked him where the old guy is. Once he pointed me in the right direction I found someone who actually knew what I was looking for. Unfortunately they didn't have one. So off to the next place... Same thing. Where's the old guy?, This one actuall pointed me to a shelf and there it was. I grabbed it and blew the dust off it and was on my way. On the way back home I got 5 gallons of the good stuff to suppliment the old gas in the tank. Got home, fille dthe tank with the 5 gallons I got. Set up the vacuum guage and dwell meter and started the motor. This took a while. Finally started and got to the point whare it would idle pretty well. I quickly got on the adjustments and after a few minutes I checked the temp... Not bad, only a bit over 100 degrees. Kept playing with the adjustments and checked temp again... no difference. So I shut it down. The hoses were pretty stiff so I waited a while to let things cool down. Once cool I yanked the thermostat out and found all kinds of shmegma there. Not to mention some asshat (<-me) installed the thermostat backwards. Well since I have the top end of the cooling system open I figure this is the time to put in the newer radiator. Huh... I doesn't fit in the mounts... too wide by about an inch or less. Now I get to rework the mounts and since I'm at it I figure I'll go ahead and look for a Taurus fan this week and make the needed adjustments while I'm at it.
But while I was able to do some inspecting of the vacuum guage I noticed some fluttering of the needle, then noticed the ticking of a valve (got more noticeable over time). So I guess I'll try some berrymans in the engine and do an engine flush and oil change also. Otherwise everything is bitchen.
 
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Woohoo!!!
Got it going. Replaced the thermostat and installed it properly, filled the system and everything went too smoothly. Makes me nervous. But none-the-less I got it out under it's own power and surprisingly everthing works very well. Still need to do an engine flush but that can wait 'til next weekend. I think I'm going to run the fixed pitch fan and clutch.

Even took a pic as I know how we all feel about looking at things instead of just hearing about them.

PICT0021.jpg
 

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The only thing I can think of that would make EBs more of a pain in the ass would be to add two more leaky doors to adjust. ;D
 

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Damn.. Don't think I seen that one before.. Stretch bronco, get rrr done brother.. ;D
 

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Broncow,

that thing is even longer than it looked all tucked in your garage (no laughs out there, I'm talkin about the bronco). Glad you got it running. I think you need to get it out to the spring round up in April. I know a place that rents trailers in Houston.
 

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Well, got it started today. Found some issues also. First off I wanted a tach I could read in the engine compartment so I went looking for a dwell meter at the local parts houses... First place I went the kid said "I aint ever heard of a weld meter". Then I asked him where the old guy is. Once he pointed me in the right direction I found someone who actually knew what I was looking for. Unfortunately they didn't have one. So off to the next place... Same thing. Where's the old guy?, This one actuall pointed me to a shelf and there it was. I grabbed it and blew the dust off it and was on my way. On the way back home I got 5 gallons of the good stuff to suppliment the old gas in the tank. Got home, fille dthe tank with the 5 gallons I got. Set up the vacuum guage and dwell meter and started the motor. This took a while. Finally started and got to the point whare it would idle pretty well. I quickly got on the adjustments and after a few minutes I checked the temp... Not bad, only a bit over 100 degrees. Kept playing with the adjustments and checked temp again... no difference. So I shut it down. The hoses were pretty stiff so I waited a while to let things cool down. Once cool I yanked the thermostat out and found all kinds of shmegma there. Not to mention some asshat (<-me) installed the thermostat backwards. Well since I have the top end of the cooling system open I figure this is the time to put in the newer radiator. Huh... I doesn't fit in the mounts... too wide by about an inch or less. Now I get to rework the mounts and since I'm at it I figure I'll go ahead and look for a Taurus fan this week and make the needed adjustments while I'm at it.
But while I was able to do some inspecting of the vacuum guage I noticed some fluttering of the needle, then noticed the ticking of a valve (got more noticeable over time). So I guess I'll try some berrymans in the engine and do an engine flush and oil change also. Otherwise everything is bitchen.

damn and to think all this happened because of trying to tune a carb:eek: if you use the taurus fan you will have to move out your radiator;)
 
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damn and to think all this happened because of trying to tune a carb:eek: if you use the taurus fan you will have to move out your radiator;)

Isn't it always that way though? I think I'm going to get the clutch fan set up instead of the Taurus fan. Either way I have no inner fenders or core support, it's all tubed up front.

Joe Lat.
Still gots lots of stuff to get done. It'll be a whie before I take it anywhere further than around the block.;)
 
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