Seatbelt suggestions for child in rear seat needed

[DonaldDouchebag]

My son is nearly six and large enough to use a booster seat with a shoulder belt in the truck I typically drive. My Bronco has the stock rear seat and the lap belts at this point. My plans include getting a family cage so I can attach some three-point Jeep TJ shoulder belts for the rear passengers. What should I use for now? Is a lap belt safe enough with his booster seat for just cruising around town? Would a four or five point racing harness mounted to the floor keep him in place a little better? Any suggestions?

 

[JohnJohn]

I run 4 point Corbeau belts in the rear but the shoulder harness mounts to my family cage. The buckles are easy for the kids to use.
Not sure what you can do without solid mounts for the shoulders. Maybe others will have ideas.

 

[DonaldDouchebag]

I run 4 point Corbeau belts in the rear but the shoulder harness mounts to my family cage. The buckles are easy for the kids to use.
Not sure what you can do without solid mounts for the shoulders. Maybe others will have ideas.

Are you running an ExtremeCustom family cage with the 30 degree rear hoop? I think this is the setup I'm planning on getting later this summer.

 

[Dan's73]

When the kids were still in car seats (with 4 point belts of their own) I used the stock lap belts & installed the "LATCH" points in the bed of my '73 Bronco to secure things even more. Now that my son is in a booster seat we use shoulder belts from Tom's (attached to my Crab family cage) and it works at least as well as it does in his mom's Explorer. Some booster seats have the LATCH system too; the mounting brackets are easy to scavenge off of a late-model vehicle & bolt into an EB with the stock lap belt mounts. That might be worth looking into...

 

[DonaldDouchebag]

When the kids were still in car seats (with 4 point belts of their own) I used the stock lap belts & installed the "LATCH" points in the bed of my '73 Bronco to secure things even more. Now that my son is in a booster seat we use shoulder belts from Tom's (attached to my Crab family cage) and it works at least as well as it does in his mom's Explorer. Some booster seats have the LATCH system too; the mounting brackets are easy to scavenge off of a late-model vehicle & bolt into an EB with the stock lap belt mounts. That might be worth looking into...

He's too big for a car seat with an integral four-point harness. I want to eventually get a family cage and run three-point belts like you. Just wondering if there are any other options in the meantime.

 

[SteveL]

I run diest buggy 4pnt harnesses front and rear. The rears are attatched to the framework of the seats I made.

 

[DonaldDouchebag]

I run diest buggy 4pnt harnesses front and rear. The rears are attatched to the framework of the seats I made.

I wonder if I could get a harness with a Y belt for the shoulders and attach it to the floor behind the seat. Would that be better than just running a lap belt?

 

[SteveL]

I think so. Keeps em from flooping around. The diests are a smaller width y-type harness. Usually about $50 each. They recommend attatching the shoulder harnesses up higher but I feel it's still safer than no shoulder belt at all.

 

[JohnJohn]

Sorry for the late responce but yes I am running the Extream Custom Family cage but with the 10 degree rear hoop. I like the look of the 30 but wanted mor protection for the kidds.

 

[.94 OR]

I also have the Diest Y-belts in the back for the kids. I dropped them down and mounted them to the floor behind the seat. Not ideal I suppose, but with the very low back of the stock rear bench, I wanted something that would keep them from flopping too bad and it has to be better than just a lap belt.

I used to have them in the front and attached to the roll bar up behind me. Not ideal for sure.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Summit has great harness anchors on their site.
My daughter is still in the seat for now , so I'm not of too much assistance right now.
Try this:
http://www.summitracing.com/search/...e/Seat-Belt-and-Harness-Hardware/?Ns=Rank|Asc

 

[DonaldDouchebag]

Thanks for the responses, fellas. I'm looking for a harness with a y-belt to order right now. I think it'll work until I get a cage.

 

[DonaldDouchebag]

Sorry for the late responce but yes I am running the Extream Custom Family cage but with the 10 degree rear hoop. I like the look of the 30 but wanted mor protection for the kidds.

I've heard it's really difficult to put a soft top up and down with the 10 degree hoop. I have an old kayline soft top right now. Can you give me the pros and cons of the cage you're running? Like you, I'd rather get the most protection possible for the rear passengers since that is the point of a cage.

Thanks!

 

[Nightstick]

Thanks for the responses, fellas. I'm looking for a harness with a y-belt to order right now. I think it'll work until I get a cage.

I have Corbeau three point (three attachment points, with two shoulder belts). They bolt to the floor. I got the 2" belts, they have a standard buckle system you see in most modern vehicles, very nice!

 

[Brianut]

Gimmie a few hours/maybe a day, and I can post some pics.
I am using 5 point Beard harnesses with the factory rear seat.
I scrounged my garage and came up with three (found the fourth later) shock bolts from my old 92 bronco that thread into the stock seatbelt holes.
took a flat bar 3/16 thick and drilled it to go over the vertical seatbelt bolts.

then took standard shock tab mounts and welded where they needed to be for the lap portion of the harness, and for the shoulder belts I welded two extended shock mounts to the top tube of the stock seat frame in a vertical manner for those to mount.

for the crotch strap I have it hooked under the front with a tab on the front of the seat frame. hard to visualize but as i said I can get a pic up today or tomorrow, I have a similiar setup next to it for my daughter who is still in a 5 point seat and just use the latch mechanism from her kid seat. took me some time but I am really pleased how it turned out.

cheap too, and when the little girl outgrows her seat and needs a booster I can just bolt up my other harness for her.
the beard harness is the full race latch style(forget the term) but my 7 year old son has no probs getting in and out, then he helps his lil sis.

 

[Brianut]

here are the pics

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac349/brianut/broncobumperandmisc007.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac349/brianut/broncobumperandmisc006.jpg

right side 5 point and left side latch

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac349/brianut/broncobumperandmisc012.jpg

middle upper latch brought all the way down

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac349/brianut/broncobumperandmisc008.jpg

 

[backpain]

Hadn't considered that (haven't looked at my stock rear seat buried in the garage for a couple years). With the external seat frame, it's so easy. Good ideas.

 

[Revelation]

Just ask Ethansdad, Ethan was in the back in his car seat when they suffered a rollover, Dad was bumped and bruised, Ethan was fine.
http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175377