Wild Horses Twin Stick with AOD trans

[BajaBronco]

Hi all, was wondering if anyone is running this combo. I have a Bronco with an AOD and T-shift case. Twin stick will bolt up to Advance Adapters AOD tailshaft housing, but link rods don't work. What did you do to make it work? I see some solutions, but I'm curious as to what others have done. Johnny at WH says he knows of no one running this set up. Or hasn't heard. Thanks in advance(adapters).

 

[bsaunder]

I'm running that setup with a T-shift case. I had to elongate the hole for the shifters towards the tailgate just about to the bend in the tranny hump. Since the AOD is longer than the factory 3-speed (manual or auto) - it places the shifters further back.

 

[BajaBronco]

Actually, the issue I"m having isn't anywhere near as simple as cutting the floor. My issue is that the link rods....wont connect to the t-case shift rails. The geometry is wrong. That's what my problem is. I wonder how or what is different on your t-case/adapter/Trans combo from mine. One of my solutions I can see is to take about 1/4" off of the thickness of the Twin STick mounting block. That would bring the shifter more toward the passenger side of the vehicle and align the link rods from the shifter to the shift rails of the t-case. It would also shorten the threads on the main shifter bolt though by 1/4".

 

[904Bronco]

Hi all, was wondering if anyone is running this combo. I have a Bronco with an AOD and T-shift case. Twin stick will bolt up to Advance Adapters AOD tailshaft housing, but link rods don't work. What did you do to make it work? I see some solutions, but I'm curious as to what others have done. Johnny at WH says he knows of no one running this set up. Or hasn't heard. Thanks in advance(adapters).

I have an AOD, with a Dana 20 and WH twin sticks. The twin sticks bolted up but I had to "flame wrench heat" the shifter fork on each "stick" to get the proper operation. Then I had to heat up the handles of each stick to adjust their operation (Clearance). The trans / transer case was out of the vehicle at the time. Do one shifter at a time (fork end) When both shifter forks are adjusted, then adjust each stick. Use a vise to hold each shifter while heating and bending. Go slow, It takes time to get it right...

Doug

 

[904Bronco]

Actually, the issue I"m having isn't anywhere near as simple as cutting the floor. My issue is that the link rods....wont connect to the t-case shift rails. The geometry is wrong. That's what my problem is. I wonder how or what is different on your t-case/adapter/Trans combo from mine. One of my solutions I can see is to take about 1/4" off of the thickness of the Twin STick mounting block. That would bring the shifter more toward the passenger side of the vehicle and align the link rods from the shifter to the shift rails of the t-case. It would also shorten the threads on the main shifter bolt though by 1/4".

Could you have the shifters reversed? It could be that maybe you got something that is wrong. (Production?)

D.

 

[VBH289]

Yea thats kinda wierd, I am running twin stick from JBG and they told me I should have no problem with them when I run my aod... got pics of the problem?

 

[BajaBronco]

I can't imagine the shifter bolting up any different way. Doug, you must have a J-shift t-case? Just guessing as I think I know what you mean by "forks". You mean at the ends of the T-case shift rails, right? I'm running a T-shift Transfer case, an early model and it has 2 straight rails with holes in the ends, no sheet metal, all machined rods. So I can't bend on them. This whole thing looks like it'd work if I moved the shifter 1/4" toward the passenger side...so I may try that.

 

[BajaBronco]

Yea thats kinda wierd, I am running twin stick from JBG and they told me I should have no problem with them when I run my aod... got pics of the problem?

I will take pics of the prob tomorrow and also my fix as I think it will work. It's almost like the AA adapter has too much "meat" where the T-case shifter bolts to....pushing the shifter more toward the driver...and therefore making it not match up with the shiftrails. All this by 1/4". So I think I"m gonna shave that block over at the machine shop tomorrow and cut the bolt 1/4" too...and see if that works.

But I can't believe no one else has dealt with this.....AA adapter, AOD, T-shift case, WH twin stick. Summmbuddy has to have dun it.....or not.

 

[Tgure]

My toms twin stick didn't bolt up to my AOD very easily. I had to massage the twin stick a bit to get it to mount to my T shift case. Mine was the same as yours it was abot 1/4" to far to drivers side.

I attached a picture the arrow points to the tabs I had to bend in order for it to line up properly. Not sure if thw WH twin stick is similar or not.

 

[904Bronco]

I can't imagine the shifter bolting up any different way. Doug, you must have a J-shift t-case? Just guessing as I think I know what you mean by "forks". You mean at the ends of the T-case shift rails, right? I'm running a T-shift Transfer case, an early model and it has 2 straight rails with holes in the ends, no sheet metal, all machined rods. So I can't bend on them. This whole thing looks like it'd work if I moved the shifter 1/4" toward the passenger side...so I may try that.

Yeah, I have a J-shifter. Should have asked you or said that... I do not remember if you could rotate the mounting bracket? I think that the bolts were two different sizes, so it only went on one way. Be sure to talk to WH before you make any unchangeable mods. Once you modify, you own.

The fork is on the shifter (the end of the shifter below the pivot point), I did not modify (heat) the trans shifter rails. Maybe you got the wrong shifter mount. Call WH and have them open another unit and compare over the phone.

When you get ready to install WH "JBA" shorty headers, let me know. I was was the 1st one to use them with an AOD. I had to tell "Mark" how that works. Got to modify the trans bellhousing a wee bit... Another story.

D.

 

[BajaBronco]

Yeah, I have a J-shifter. Should have asked you or said that... I do not remember if you could rotate the mounting bracket? I think that the bolts were two different sizes, so it only went on one way. Be sure to talk to WH before you make any unchangeable mods. Once you modify, you own.

The fork is on the shifter (the end of the shifter below the pivot point), I did not modify (heat) the trans shifter rails. Maybe you got the wrong shifter mount. Call WH and have them open another unit and compare over the phone.

When you get ready to install WH "JBA" shorty headers, let me know. I was was the 1st one to use them with an AOD. I had to tell "Mark" how that works. Got to modify the trans bellhousing a wee bit... Another story.

D.

I already called Johnny at WH and he says he doesn't know anything about the AOD or anyone using it with an AOD...so....I'm on my own no matter what! I'm a Bronco owner so I'll figure it out!

So you had your JBAs and your AOD before Nov. 2000? That's when I did this trucks.....yeah, lots of work. I didn't even bother to tell WH. And I'm guessing if Mark was there, you were probably the first to TELL them what a couple of us got frustrated about a couple years back. Oh well, they didn't ever say they'd fit an AOD, so no biggie. I ended up heating up the headers and bending.

 

[behemoth]

I have an aod and a WH twin stick. I did not have to do anything to the shifters them selves or the rods on the transfer case to get mine to work. I took the steel tabs that go between the shifters and the t case rails off. I cut some steel bar/flat stock that was the same size only a little longer added the twist and the bends to shift them over to the tcase rails and drilled the holes. It was simple and did not take me more than an hour. I will try and get a photo, but it is installed and has been working great for over a year now.

I did have to elongate the hole in the body 1.5 to the rear, I went right to the edge. I did also bend the shifters, but that had nothing to do with the install, only personal preferance.

 

[bsaunder]

Ok - I know what you are talking about now- on mine I mounted the shift tabs to the outside of the rails rather than inside them. I'll try to take a pick this evening to show what I did.

 

[behemoth]

Here is a shot of what I did to get mine to work.

 

[Little71]

The solution is quite an easy one...step away from the bong...I repeat...Step. Away. From. The. Bong. ;D :-X

 

[BajaBronco]

The solution is quite an easy one...step away from the bong...I repeat...Step. Away. From. The. Bong. ;D :-X

Thank you little guy.

I got it all done today. Works great. Didn't need to bend anything or make anything new, just mounted to the outside of the rails with new longer pins.