Oil pan capacity

[Buckaroo]

New owner to this old 1970 bronco. Somewhat of a survivor but in need of lots of TLC. Anyway started with all new fluids and filters to assure it's drivable. Read oil capacity 6 qts for a 302 V8 including full size WIx filter. Put in 5 1/2 qts for first attempt and dipstick showing 1/2 qt over full. Read as many old threads as I could and need verification this is the stock pan and I need to adjust dipstick not drain some oil out. Passenger side in pan stick mount per pics. Thanks much for any guidance!

 

[DirtDonk]

Can you see a part number on the dipstick?
And while it won’t hurt anything to run just 5 quarts, you had read correctly that the original factory pan for our broncos and four four-wheel-drive trucks of the same vintage took 6 quarts.
Some of the six cylinder engines took seven!

I can’t guarantee that that’s an original pan, but it sure looks like it from here.
Hence the question about the dipstick part number.

 

[Buckaroo]

Yeah Paul PN is C6TE-6750-F. Thanks for the reply. Pan looks like it has the proper indents for the front diff. Only rear drain plug. Per the pics not much room for adjustment on top of dipstick. BTW just ordered Premium Suspension System from WH yesterday. Excited to get this old, tired pony back to top condition

 

[Oldtimer]

Turn dipstick over and recheck.

dipstick question - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - dipstick question - i'm stumped... can anyone explain why my dipstick reads one way when pulled out facing up, and another way when pulled out facing down? (its the difference between being full, and adding a quart)

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[DirtDonk]

As usual Oldtimer has a good point.
Even though my bronco barely varied by a tick (about a 16th of an inch) from side to side, I have seen vehicles that varied as much is 3/8ths of an inch on the stick, depending on which side you were looking at.
Worth a shot at this point.

 

[Buckaroo]

Thanks again. Will give that a try. Sometimes it's the most obvious fix that can baffle me. I also like easy fixes. I'll try to locate the pan p/n and post it if I can get more crud cleaned off. Appreciate it.

 

[Broncobowsher]

Did you start the engine before checking the oil level? You need to pump the oil into the filter by running the engine for a couple seconds.. That will bring the fill in the pan down to the correct level.

 

[Buckaroo]

Yep, gave it a good run checking oil level along the way. Never want to run overfull on oil but each rig has its unique quirks it seems like. Still learning on this one. I went 5 1/2 qts to be a bit conservative. Need to flip the dipstick and see if that’s the trick. Will eventually drop the pan and attempt a new gasket as appears multiple leaks. Trial and error to try and stop the weeps. Just don’t want to create more leaks trying to fix a few!

 

[DirtDonk]

Well the good news for once is that you have leaks to fix. Which gives removing the pan a lot less hassle factor than it would have if you were just doing it to find a part number.
Which they probably put on the hardest to see surface (maybe even the inside!) anyway!

Good luck. Very interested to hear the solution.
For reference, my '71 with original everything always took 6qts (including filter) to get it to just a tick below the full line. Not enough to add more oil, but enough to show below the full mark. Pretty sure it was the same for my buddy's '72.
Yours sounds quite a bit different.

Paul

 

[Buckaroo]

Yeah like an old old Harley... oil leaks are a good sign 'cause then there's oil still in it somewhere. Pan P/N C6TE-6675-G which appears to be the real deal for a 1970 Bronco w / 302. So far so good. Flipped dipstick 180 degrees several tries and reads between U and last L on the FULL mark on original looking dipstick. Hmmm? Hopefully there's not an inch or two of dried sludge in the bottom of that pan. Prob time to drop it and find out.

The new oil change looks fresh on the dipstick after a 40 - 50 mile several stop run. When I drained the oil from PO it flowed out fine, dirty but not unusual. However when I measured the output of old oil it was just over a gal. Before this oil change whenI checked dipstick w/ old oil the level showed between Full tic and Add tic. Temp & oil pressure seem in good range. Maybe just add that next 1/2 qt and scratch a new full line on the dipstick?

 

[DirtDonk]

It's what I'd do. But only AFTER you pull the pan and verify the lack of that inch of sludge!
Maybe even a valve cover while you're at it.

I wonder if the dipstick tube is pushed too far in?
Does it still have the bracket arm that's attached to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side?

Paul

 

[Buckaroo]

Yes, bracket attached to manifold and tube is solid. Time to drop the pan and verify full capacity available. Agree new gaskets on valve covers while I'm at it. Fresh coat of paint on all as well. Thanks for the advice from all! Learned this rig has mostly stock parts so far. A good start!!

 

[DirtDonk]

Have some others verify that location for the dipstick bracket.
I thought I remembered mine as being on an actual manifold bolt. It was a specialty bolt with a stud sticking out of it, and the bracket was held in place by a nut.
Yours looks to be on some kind of auxiliary bolt location (perhaps for the choke stove/heat riser cover?) and it could be lowering your dipstick.