Paint Questions

[cldonley]

I want to paint the rig a 1968 Ford truck color called American Blue. I have the 1969 paint chip page from Martin Senour paints with the numbers and such on it. Went to a local paint shop a while back and had them mix up a quart. As usual, life happens and now a few years later I'm spraying it on the truck, and it's the wrong color. A great looking Ford blue, but not the one I want. How do I make sure that doesn't happen again? A search for the color by name or code on the interweb is turning up nothing useful.

 

[75MIKE]

Have to ask. For sure a single stage paint?

 

[cldonley]

Have to ask. For sure a single stage paint?

As far as I know-did they do a clear coat at the factory in 68-69?

 

[75MIKE]

Probably not. Just throwing it out there that it wasn't mixed to use clear coat with it.

 

[cldonley]

Probably not. Just throwing it out there that it wasn't mixed to use clear coat with it.

Now I understand the question-no, it was single stage.

 

[1970 Palmer]

I want to paint the rig a 1968 Ford truck color called American Blue. I have the 1969 paint chip page from Martin Senour paints with the numbers and such on it. Went to a local paint shop a while back and had them mix up a quart. As usual, life happens and now a few years later I'm spraying it on the truck, and it's the wrong color. A great looking Ford blue, but not the one I want. How do I make sure that doesn't happen again? A search for the color by name or code on the interweb is turning up nothing useful.

So I'm confused.

You want to paint a 1968 color called American Blue. By the way, it's a nice color.

Why would you use a 1969 paint chip chart? The 1969 chart has seven different blues and not one of them is called American Blue.

Auto Color Library (on the net) shows a 1968 Ford Truck chart with color "O" for American Blue and the PPG color number is #13657, is that the color number you had mixed?

 

[cldonley]

So I'm confused.

You want to paint a 1968 color called American Blue. By the way, it's a nice color.

Why would you use a 1969 paint chip chart? The 1969 chart has seven different blues and not one of them is called American Blue.

Auto Color Library (on the net) shows a 1968 Ford Truck chart with color "O" for American Blue and the PPG color number is #13657, is that the color number you had mixed?

When I bought the rig the PO gave me all the stuff he collected for it, including the 69 paint chart, which has has American Blue code O on it. The guy at the PPG store mixed 13657 according to the label, but it is NOT American Blue. It is probably Harbor Blue.

 

[Cecjap]

Different brands have a different look

I searched long for the right color, shot many colors and many brands before choosing 67 Ford Clearwater Aqua. The Basf color was not good, the same color in ppg was great before I shot the clear. Don’t give up.

 

[1970 Palmer]

When I bought the rig the PO gave me all the stuff he collected for it, including the 69 paint chart, which has has American Blue code O on it. The guy at the PPG store mixed 13657 according to the label, but it is NOT American Blue. It is probably Harbor Blue.

Got it!

I think I would go back to your local paint store.

Pull up the 1968 Ford Truck PPG paint chip chart. You can view this on the TCP Global "Auto Color Library" web site. Show them what American Blue looks like, and it does not match the color they mixed using American Blue 13657 code.

I just went through this with my color match on a 1970. TCP nailed the original factory color using their color chip chart and color code mix.

Good luck.
John

 

[cldonley]

I searched long for the right color, shot many colors and many brands before choosing 67 Ford Clearwater Aqua. The Basf color was not good, the same color in ppg was great before I shot the clear. Don’t give up.

Wow. That’s some beautiful work my friend!

 

[cldonley]

Got it!

I think I would go back to your local paint store.

Pull up the 1968 Ford Truck PPG paint chip chart. You can view this on the TCP Global "Auto Color Library" web site. Show them what American Blue looks like, and it does not match the color they mixed using American Blue 13657 code.

I just went through this with my color match on a 1970. TCP nailed the original factory color using their color chip chart and color code mix.

Good luck.
John

Thanks for the help! This is what I will try next. Can’t beat the help from all the folks on this forum!

 

[Kurzhaarguy]

All Martin senior chips have a UFN for the chip
Once assigned they never change. Not all NAPA stores carry all paints or all toners, which would limit the pallet of color they can match.

 

[Kurzhaarguy]

A couple of things that could be happening if the chip has been left out the chip color could shift. It is more likely that some or many of the toners are no longer available. Substitute toners will shift the color. Many pigments are no longer available. If this is the case the color will need to be reformulated.

 

[Kurzhaarguy]

My comment are if you want to get a Martin Senour paint. I see that there is a color called North American Blue that has been reformulated several times. This would be readily available through NAPA.

 

[cldonley]

My comment are if you want to get a Martin Senour paint. I see that there is a color called North American Blue that has been reformulated several times. This would be readily available through NAPA.

Thanks for the info! I will check with NAPA. I was searching the NAPA/Martin Senour site and the color wasn’t there-

 

[Kurzhaarguy]

I have access to their formula express. Send me a private message and I can send it to your local NAPA