1966 VIN tag/location

[Delbert]

I'm sure you would have noticed by now, but my tag is riveted to the inside of the glove box door. Not sure why. Have you looked everywhere?

 

[okie4570]

I'm sure you would have noticed by now, but my tag is riveted to the inside of the glove box door. Not sure why. Have you looked everywhere?

Your 69' should be on the glove box door, 66' and 67' were on the driver kick panel.

 

[Delbert]

Your 69' should be on the glove box door, 66' and 67' were on the driver kick panel.

Thanks for that. I always thought my tag was moved to the glove box from the kick panel.

 

[brianstrange]

Marti will request a photo of the original VIN tag if you want them to make a replacement tag.

They do this to replicate the unique stamping pattern. It was not required for my Mustang.

 

[DEANs42]

66 vin tag location

Your 69' should be on the glove box door, 66' and 67' were on the driver kick panel.

exactly were on the kick panel is the tag located on the 66 and its orientation, panel has been replaced at some time
thanks, Dean

 

[okie4570]

exactly were on the kick panel is the tag located on the 66 and its orientation, panel has been replaced at some time
thanks, Dean

Here's one, and they vary a little, they were exact by any means.

 

[bulletpruf]

They have no data for 66, to decode, but they can make various tags.

http://www.martiauto.com/tags.cfm

Slight hijack of this thread to ask a related question.

I'm supposed to pick up a '66 frame/suspension in a few days. It doesn't have a body, but it does have a title and a frame VIN.

If I understand the situation correctly, I could still get a data tag from Marti, but since they don't have any data on '66's, I would have to guess/make up what should be on the tag besides the VIN, right?

Thanks

 

[okie4570]

Slight hijack of this thread to ask a related question.

I'm supposed to pick up a '66 frame/suspension in a few days. It doesn't have a body, but it does have a title and a frame VIN.

If I understand the situation correctly, I could still get a data tag from Marti, but since they don't have any data on '66's, I would have to guess/make up what should be on the tag besides the VIN, right?

Thanks

It would be up to you to provide all the info for the warranty tag. If it's just a frame and suspension, the axle code and transmission is about the only thing you can determine. You'll have no idea of the color, body/trim code, gvw code or the DSO unless you've got a window sticker or an original owners manual with the original owner/deal location. If it's a big bearing 9" you could narrow down the gvw but still wouldn't know for sure.

 

[bulletpruf]

It would be up to you to provide all the info for the warranty tag. If it's just a frame and suspension, the axle code and transmission is about the only thing you can determine. You'll have no idea of the color, body/trim code, gvw code or the DSO unless you've got a window sticker or an original owners manual with the original owner/deal location. If it's a big bearing 9" you could narrow down the gvw but still wouldn't know for sure.

Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.

Scott

 

[chrlsful]

EVERYthing can B swapped (& is), some are dishonest, and so on thru over 50 yrs history (which is impossible to know unless province is established thru a provincial or state government). Begin NOW to do so.

Figure what U want (honesty sez as close as can B determined) or can and comply (over comply) w/the locals. This way you can build from here just like the last guy did w/the rig. U can check all the components (motor, heads, frnt/rear axel, transfer, carb, frame, metal tags under the seats, and on and on). I do this w/any new-to-me vehicle for gear ratios, replacement prts, to know what I got to hop up, etc.

Good Luck, have fun w/it (I do), research, discover, plan, etc...

 

[DirtDonk]

As soon as I heard the words "sand blast" and "could not find the VIN" the first thing I thought of was they got a little too aggressive and literally wiped the very shallowly stamped numbers right off the frame.

Although, the way the blasting process leaves it a gray color could just have covered things up a bit and made it hard to read. But it was there at some point, so maybe you can use some trickery to bring them back to the surface to be more visible.
Wiping, getting them wet, or oily, or just looking very closely in a good light might be enough to check the original VIN on the frame.
It's fantastic that they have the original owners paperwork seemingly straightforward, but there's no guarantee that the frame they're selling is the one listed on the paperwork.

It probably is of course, but there are always other possibilities especially these days!

Good luck. Let us know how it works out.

Paul

 

[okie4570]

As soon as I heard the words "sand blast" and "could not find the VIN" the first thing I thought of was they got a little too aggressive and literally wiped the very shallowly stamped numbers right off the frame.

Although, the way the blasting process leaves it a gray color could just have covered things up a bit and made it hard to read. But it was there at some point, so maybe you can use some trickery to bring them back to the surface to be more visible.
Wiping, getting them wet, or oily, or just looking very closely in a good light might be enough to check the original VIN on the frame.
It's fantastic that they have the original owners paperwork seemingly straightforward, but there's no guarantee that the frame they're selling is the one listed on the paperwork.

It probably is of course, but there are always other possibilities especially these days!

Good luck. Let us know how it works out.

Paul

Since this thread was created 4 years ago there's been three or four 66 show up on FB where the owner can't find any of the frame vins requesting suggestions, so I think there's actually something to the claim.

 

[DirtDonk]

Maybe so. It certainly would not be the first time that the '66's had anomalies from what we consider normal procedure. Even the wiring is different on some.

What about yours? Were you able to find them in the expected spots, if you looked?

Paul

 

[chrlsful]

so easy for ignorant (not stupid, just lack knowledge) 'restorers' to by-pass frame #s, other identifiers. Removal, cover up, etc is pretty standard practice w/those just interested in income. Its imperative upon us, enthusiasts, to solidify what's here, not just for who's next, but as curators of automotive history. This bronk will outlive me, thru my own, individual efforts, I can begin to document more than just my 38 yrs of ownership. Back to the word province as used above. Some just slap one of the 3 or 4 "Id" tags on and a few parts and 'claim' yr of heritage. W/these rigs its very easy. Also as said above everything can be swapped. As sale prices climb (was highest of any vehicle last winter, now dwn to #22) U really start to C the BS fly...

From what I understand 2 co. made the 1st bronks. Wasn't it Budd or some 1 who made the 1st 1/2 of the run in '65? Where's Todd when ya need 'im? aahahahaaa

 

[okie4570]

Maybe so. It certainly would not be the first time that the '66's had anomalies from what we consider normal procedure. Even the wiring is different on some.

What about yours? Were you able to find them in the expected spots, if you looked?

All three 66 had the vins in the normal places.

Paul

so easy for ignorant (not stupid, just lack knowledge) 'restorers' to by-pass frame #s, other identifiers. Removal, cover up, etc is pretty standard practice w/those just interested in income. Its imperative upon us, enthusiasts, to solidify what's here, not just for who's next, but as curators of automotive history. This bronk will outlive me, thru my own, individual efforts, I can begin to document more than just my 38 yrs of ownership. Back to the word province as used above. Some just slap one of the 3 or 4 "Id" tags on and a few parts and 'claim' yr of heritage. W/these rigs its very easy. Also as said above everything can be swapped. As sale prices climb (was highest of any vehicle last winter, now dwn to #22) U really start to C the BS fly...

From what I understand 2 co. made the 1st bronks. Wasn't it Budd or some 1 who made the 1st 1/2 of the run in '65? Where's Todd when ya need 'im? aahahahaaa

Budd made the bodies the first few months 65' production, not the frames. Ford stamped the frame vins, mounted the warranty plates to the driver kick panel.

 

[randy r 66]

I have no numbers on frame or a tag its a 10/65 bronco only vin I have is title . kick panel original no rivet holes and dont see any thing on frame

 

[DirtDonk]

Interesting. The frame numbers can often be very hard to find as you may have read here. But at least we know they are supposed to be there.
How do you know the kick panel is original if it doesn’t have rivet holes? Or perhaps it’s a different year model represented as a 66?
Did you pick it up recently or have you had it a long time?

 

[U13FL735]

Marti will request a photo of the original VIN tag if you want them to make a replacement tag.

Didn't ask for anything special for mine. Sent them the data and payment, and got a new tag.

 

[randy r 66]

Interesting. The frame numbers can often be very hard to find as you may have read here. But at least we know they are supposed to be there.
How do you know the kick panel is original if it doesn’t have rivet holes? Or perhaps it’s a different year model represented as a 66?
Did you pick it up recently or have you had it a long time?

found it !!!

 

[DirtDonk]

Success! Where'd you find it? Front one on the frame, or one of the other super-secret double-probation locations?

Paul