Snap Ring Hell - Dana 20 T

[bulletpruf]

Tearing down the Dana 20 in my '69. It's a t-shift so it has the lock ring. Any tips on getting it out? I can get on it, but just barely, with some Knipex snap ring pliers that I slightly modified, but still no joy.

Also, if I ever manage to spread it, which way do I go with it?

Thanks!

Scott

 

[Speedrdr]

Not sure if you have the room, but when you have the clip squeezed could you get a pick or a thin screwdriver behind it and pop it out? And you may have tried it; I don’t know, but maybe that’ll work.

Randy

 

[bulletpruf]

Not sure if you have the room, but when you have the clip squeezed could you get a pick or a thin screwdriver behind it and pop it out? And you may have tried it; I don’t know, but maybe that’ll work.

Randy

I don't think that will work, but thanks for the input.

 

[bulletpruf]

I have to move the lock ring towards the bearing once it's expanded, right?

 

[.94 OR]

Pic?
I did mine a couple years ago but that step must not have been a deal breaker for me.

 

[BOBS 2 68S]

Watch these

Dana 20 Rebuild Part 2 - Assembly - 1966 Ford Bronco ...​

Dana 20 Rebuild Part 1- Tear Down - 1966 Ford Bronco ...​

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-V-C6_IyUA

 

[DirtDonk]

Yeah, I’m curious too.
I did mine 45 years ago so I don’t remember the details. But I didn’t have any trouble with any of the components in the Dana 20.
I was doing my transmission at the same time though, so I did end up buying those specialty snap-ring pliers (external only) for use with real thick, heavy snap rings.
But that was the only specialty tool I had, other than maybe the long Allen wrenches for the transmission.

Post up a close-up shot of the ring in question.
I didn’t watch the videos yet, but will do that when I have time.

 

[chuckji]

I bought these snap ring pliers at Home Depot and ground them down (thinner) a bit. Made quick work of getting that snap ring out. if you haven’t seen it, check out this video on Jason and Josie Builds.

 

[JB Fab]

You need to move the bearing toward the end of the shaft. try using a wedge such as a chisel. If you find a tool with just the right angle you can move the bearing out without damaging the bearing or marking the shaft.

 

[bulletpruf]

You need to move the bearing toward the end of the shaft. try using a wedge such as a chisel. If you find a tool with just the right angle you can move the bearing out without damaging the bearing or marking the shaft.

That's what I did. I used two large screwdrivers to move the bearing and then I used some lock ring pliers to get the snap ring off. As soon as I got the bearing out of the way, I was done in about 20 seconds.

Thanks

 

[bulletpruf]

Watch these

Dana 20 Rebuild Part 2 - Assembly - 1966 Ford Bronco ...​

Dana 20 Rebuild Part 1- Tear Down - 1966 Ford Bronco ...​

That's what I was watching, but I used a slightly different approach.

Thanks

 

[bulletpruf]

Yeah, I’m curious too.
I did mine 45 years ago so I don’t remember the details. But I didn’t have any trouble with any of the components in the Dana 20.
I was doing my transmission at the same time though, so I did end up buying those specialty snap-ring pliers (external only) for use with real thick, heavy snap rings.
But that was the only specialty tool I had, other than maybe the long Allen wrenches for the transmission.

Post up a close-up shot of the ring in question.
I didn’t watch the videos yet, but will do that when I have time.

In this video, at 12:45, that's the one. FYI - if you have a J-shift, you don't have the snap ring.

 

[bulletpruf]

I bought these snap ring pliers at Home Depot and ground them down (thinner) a bit. Made quick work of getting that snap ring out. if you haven’t seen it, check out this video on Jason and Josie Builds.

I saw the Jason and Josie video; it was helpful. I was initially using ground down snap ring pliers but I couldn't get enough of a grip, which makes sense, because this is a lock ring and really needs lock ring pliers with some knurling on them. Once I got the bearing moved out of the way, I got it out with lock ring pliers.

Thanks

 

[bulletpruf]

Disassembled one of my spare T-shift Dana 20's today (I needed some decent shift rails; no luck) and looky what I found! An actual snap ring instead of the lock ring!

It was .050" so it was too thin. The original lock ring is .065".

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