Getting the spare tire up on the carrier.

[Johnnyb]

So I've got 35 by 12.5 on 17-in rims and they're pretty darn heavy. I do okay with my knees or a lever getting them on and off of the truck but I'm wondering about getting it up onto the PreRunner spare tire mount in back? I don't know if I can deadlift the tire and hold it in place long enough to get a nut on there.
Has anybody come up with interesting Solutions for lifting heavy tires onto spare tire racks which are somewhat high off the ground?

THX,
JB

 

[72ford]

This from bailiebuilt might work for you

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[ba123]

That’s a great idea! I didn’t get a spare cause I the look of the carrier. I had a stock mount and got rid of it but if I ever need one, that’s what I’d do.

 

[nvrstuk]

I used to lift mine up and I did 2 weeks ago BUT the easiest way to do it is to put a pc of sq stock in my trailer hitch, roll my 40" MTR up close to it, lay the top of the tire against the tubing, lift up the bottom of the tire and it pivots the tire on to my rack leaning against my mount- which is mostly BallieBuilt. (A good buddy gave me a screaming deal and it's the only thing on my rig I didn't build- thanks M.D).

Not the best pic but you can see my receiver and when I stab either my short coupler in it for hooking straps to it, or in my shop I just put a 2' pc of tubing in it, the tire gets flipped up and you wiggle it to the studs sticking out of the swing-away carrier. Beats lifting it off the ground everytime you want access to your tailgate!

 

[Yeller]

I just carry a smaller spare, but mine is on the roof. It’s the same size as my trailer, so it’s multi purpose. I’ve driven hundreds of miles with a 31” spare and 40” tires. On the front you don’t even know it’s there.

If I carried a full size spare, the back seat would come out and it would lay in the floor.

 

[ared77]

nvrstuk, great pic!

 

[nvrstuk]

Yeah, that would be about 70# less weight and it would fit btw the wheel wells on the floor too!
Do you keep a full sized spare back at camp?

I drive so far to get anywhere i think I'd want a full size somewhere at camp so I wouldn't lose the rest of my highway/wheeling vacation. Strap it to the top of the mtrhome...probably only need it once (hope anyway).

I had a brand new MTR leak (the day we got home) thru the sidewall after a 2 week Moab trip. No scuff marks, no bulge-just a leak. That was my first trip after my big build thread- 10months of work FT. Man I would have been bummed if it had died down there!

 

[Johnnyb]

Mine is a protofab swing away and the mount is quite a ways up there. I'm thinking I can rig something up for trail use with a ratchet strap and possibly a strip of metal.

 

[JB Fab]

Can also be used for spare tire......

 

[72ford]

That’s a sweet set up!


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[mrdrnac]

I feel your pain, I've got a 37×14.5×15 toyo m/t that weighs 110 pounds, I used a hoist to put it on my homebuilt rack, but I'm going to need a buddy if I ever need to use it!!!!!

 

[nvrstuk]

I've seen the hoist used on the trail lifting a truck up... way cool. Jon's the guy you want to be wheeling with!

 

[Yeller]

Yeah, that would be about 70# less weight and it would fit btw the wheel wells on the floor too!
Do you keep a full sized spare back at camp?

I drive so far to get anywhere i think I'd want a full size somewhere at camp so I wouldn't lose the rest of my highway/wheeling vacation. Strap it to the top of the mtrhome...probably only need it once (hope anyway).

I had a brand new MTR leak (the day we got home) thru the sidewall after a 2 week Moab trip. No scuff marks, no bulge-just a leak. That was my first trip after my big build thread- 10months of work FT. Man I would have been bummed if it had died down there!

I do not, I just run the donut on the front and grab the trailer spare to carry lol. Only needed it once, Moab, day 1 of 8, just past rocker knocker on Pritchet. Somehow got a 6” hole in a sidewall, honestly probably damaged before we ever got there, wheeled and drove it the rest of week, put about 450 miles on it. Was running drive flanges and a Detroit, only thing I really noticed was the slight lean, it wasn’t as squishy from being aired down as low, and being smaller. I never felt it hampered the performance enough to feel the need for a full size spare, still climbed, rock pile, white knuckle and high dive on the way out. Ran highway speeds just fine. I do run 2low most of the time and only run 4x4 when the terrain and/or safety deem it mandatary. After that experience I’ve never felt the need to worry over a full size spare, it just isn’t necessary. The need for a full size spare is really just an emotional one, there’s really no mechanical justification for it unless your competing where you need ever once of advantage.

My disclaimer is that I joke about it being a spare for my trailer, which it is, however I’ve always used a good quality AT tire. I have always shied away from ST trailer tires even though they are lighter, you can usually poke a hole in a sidewall with your finger. Always figured if I needed it I’d be somewhere where I really needed it and didn’t need to poke a hole in it 100 yards down the trail lol.

 

[ntsqd]

Not sure why this necrothread turned up in my feed, but since I'm here.......

I built this for the muchly modified Protofab spare carrier on the FSB, it sticks out further than the studs by enough that you can put the spare on it, then worry about spinning the spare until the studs align with the holes in the wheel:

I put a slot in the bottom of it so that dust doesn't build up in it and then realized that a lock thru that hole would make it impossible to remove the spare from the truck.

For the CTD/Camper there is the chance that my wife will need to change a bad flat and the spare weighs about what she does. There is no way that she'd ever be able to get the good tire down or lift the bad tire up. So I built this:

The ratchet strap that holds the spare in place is capable of rolling the spare into the cradle from the ground when the cradle is lowered like t above. Then the winch can lift the spare and the cradle up and it swings closed like this:

We had a longer camper than the one shown for a while and this carrier didn't fit. I need to make a couple pieces and put it back on now that we're back to a shorter camper.

 

[1969]

If you don’t wanna deal with a spare.. I’ve known people to have good luck with Glue Tread and a tire plug kit.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08W22W5R5/?tag=classicbroncos-20

 

[nvrstuk]

In all the decades I've been wheeling I've only had one tire get destroyed so bad you'd never be able to patch it (unless you had a 12" long vulcanizing boot).

Super Swamper 37". I was crawling in 1st gear in my ZF, in low range in the D20 and had my 203 doubler in low also. So speed wasn't an issue. Going up a rocky trail and a root sticking out sliced the sidewall so bad ALL the air was out of the tire before I stopped with less than half a tire rotation.

I had never been pleased with Swampers performance and now durability.
This was when my spare tire w/hub rotated on my carrier so I thought I'd advertise my tire and I stuck the 2 liter Pepsi bottle my buddy had downed that day into the gash of the Swamper. Left it there on the back for a couple months at least till I bought a new set of tires. Good advertising. Still have the pic... lol

 

[ntsqd]

I used to know a guy who wheeled a linked Sami on one of the Swamper versions (TSL's?) with no valve cores in the stems. He lightly put caps on them to keep the dust & junk out and ran on sidewall strength alone.
Never had any, but I thought their toughness was their main selling point?

I carry a plugging kit in everything, but with the Camper we're frequently solo so I need to plan how we're going to get home.

 

[nvrstuk]

Swampers are kinda like Detroit lockers... "King Kong Strong" till they aren't!

I ran the TSL's for a while also but couldn't drive over 55mph as they would literally walk my Bronco from ditch to ditch on our county roads they were so bad. lol Really! Had them balanced and re-balanced. Checked for out of round, etc. Gave up with those as I had to be able to drive it...

 

[AZ73]

You don't have to actually hold it there. Put a long bolt on the carrier to hang the tire on once you get it up there. Or get a wheel hanger bolt like I use on my BMW to hold the tire in place until I can get the lug nuts in. Get a metal one. The plastic ones can't take much weight.

 

[ntsqd]

I debated something like that for the FSB, but went with the same studs that are on the rear axle instead. I did not want a weld-in solution, which a long bolt would have required.