2000 Explorer 5.0 4R70W 22k miles value?

[extramedium9]

Hey all,

I called the local salvage yards today. I got a quote for a 2000 Explorer(Mountaineer) 5.0/4R70W 4WD(or maybe it was a AWD???)combo with 22,000 miles for $1750. This does not include the computer/harness which I think he quoted me at an additional $250, and I have to call back and make sure this included all the front accessories. This yard is only 10 minutes from my house. The guy said it is still in the truck and I can see it run before I buy it. Questions:
1) What is your opinion on the price?
2) What, if any, are ways that I can tell that this setup has the low miles he claims(i.e visual inspections of specific areas, etc)? Any tests I can do to tell the condition of both the engine and tranny?
3) Can I connect an NP205 to this without an adaptor? Does it matter if it is a 4WD or an AWD for NP205 to work?
4) If it is what it says it is, would it be safe NOT to rebuild either the engine or tranny, that is my goal. The reason I am interested in this is because of the low miles.
5) What are the disadvantages or inconveniences of going with this later model Explorer setup as opposed to the 96-97's?

Any help from you experts out there would be appreciated. I would like to buy it very soon if everything turns out good.

Keith

 

[thegreatjustino]

If it does not have the front accessories, they are hard to track down used. I paid $475 for my Explorer Serpentine setup and am still hassling to get the last three parts that were supposed to be included but were not in the box when it arrived. Something to consider if they are in fact missing.

 

[ransil]

If its running then pull codes, the computer & harness is a bit high, he will most likely never sell the harness after the motor is gone. Price a computer at a local parts store and offer him that for the harness & computer.

 

[Broncobowsher]

1) sounds good. I know of higher miles going for more
2) If it is still running, look at the odometer on the dash. Check the oil in the engine. Look over the condition of the vehicle like a used car. Is the brake pedal pad worn down to the metal, etc. More then likely it really is 22k. How hard those 22k were put on is a whole other story. If I had put that 22k on there like I do my daily driver, you may not want it. If it was my dad who put them on there then the rings may not even be seated yet.
3) I know of a NP205 that is bolted to that combo in a project. Went on perfect but has not got around to fabbing up a shifter yet.
4) Check the fluids. If they are good (they better be) then just run it as is. I wouldn't touch a thing.
5) Oddball stuff about the 2000.
No return fuel rail. Either change or use an MSD-2222 remote regulator.
Remote PFE EGR. Can be a bastard to hook up. But can be deleted.
Injectors. Odd 17lb hr units that are EV6. They don't plug into standard mustang style harness. Not really a bad thing as you swap them for standard mustang injectors that are the correct size and connections.
ACT is not in the intake. Drilling and tapping the hole risks tossing a bunch of metal shavings into the engine. Lots of fixes for this, I just stick my ACT in the pre throttle body air intake and it is fine.
P-heads. Odd sparkplug angles. Explorer manifolds and headers work fine, standard Bronco headers usually have issues. Last I remember someone was coming out with P-head compatable bronco headers. Don't remember who or when.
The later engines have a steel pan that is 6 quarts, fits the Bronco just fine (according to my sources). I know of people running mustang engines who are swapping to Explorer pans to gain an extra quart of oil and loose that messy frond drain plug. (Todd Z.)

Don't waste your time with the Explorer harness or computer. It is a bastard, too many sensors for emissions, variable fuel pump drive (part of the no return fuel system), intigrated into everything like ABS and the AWD. Use a standard mustand computer and harness. There are 2 ways to run a mustang harness. The '89 - '93 that is the standard and the '94 - '95. The newer can run the transmission but you will need to downgrade the TRS (Transmission Range Selector a.k.a. nuetral start backup light switch). I have done this on my V8 Ranger, was not satisifyed. Functionally the Baumanator is a superior product, especially in 4WD applications.

I hope I got it all covered, probably still missed something.

 

[extramedium9]

Thanks guys, great responses.

As far as the NP205 goes, does anyone know for certain if it will bolt right up to the 4WD AND the AWD. I don't know if the transmission extension housing is the same for both??? Does anyone know the bolt pattern? I definitely want to hook a NP205 behind it for the main reason of not having to open up the tranny.

Reading the codes is a great idea. Can I buy a reader myself? Or maybe borrow one from my mechanic buddy if necessary. I guess I will have to find where the connector is in the truck.

Broncobowsher, I am going to PM you.
It sounds like the oddball post-'97 stuff isn't a showstopper. As far as headers go, I was planning to get the stock manifolds that are on the truck and use them if they fit, I don't know why they wouldn't be good enough for what I'm doing with the truck.

As far as the computer/harness go... I have read that most people use the '89-93' Mustang setup and it has the most write-ups. I came across only a few threads of people using the '94-'95 Mustang. I thought I remembered one person using the Explorer EEC-V setup, but not sure. The last two being the most intriguing to me because of they already have the electronic transmission control.

 

[Broncobowsher]

OK sent you info back