300 CID with 2bbl.

[Pa PITT]

...OK any of you guys Replace the 1BBL on the 300 cid's With your 2BBL Motorcraft.
.. I know a lot of folks seem to use the New Holly 2bbl 4100 ''I THink'' . I believe it has 350 or 400 CFM.
. I don't new a bigger carb on my 300cid I just need a carb to run correctly.
.. I got to thinking that the old Motorcraft 2100 I had on my V8 I pulled out for my Diesel swap . That old carb ran good & I still have it.
... So I got to thinking of buying a 1 too 2bbl, adapter & Putting the Motorcraft carb over on my 300 cid.
... So I expect If I GOT THE CARB REKITED & MOUNTED UP , It'd run ok but What do you do for linkage . I have a throttle cable But I believe the Linkage on the carb will be ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE CARB.
... DO YOU KNOW IF THE Bracket for the Pull cable in home made or is there one to be bought .
.. My Throttle cable comes from later model fords like 80 to 86 6 cyl & connects to the foot peddle.
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... Hope that makes since.

 

[jckkys]

The small Holley 2 bbl is a 350 CFM model 2300. The Ford Autolite/Motorcraft 2bbl in an EB is 287 CFM. The 2100 swap works best with the donor carb going to a near same size engine so a 2100 from a 302 should work well on a 300. The Ford 6 forums have plenty of info on intake adapters and linkages.

 

[Scoop]

Pa, I've done it. I could not find a 1 to 2 bbl adapter that fit the 300 manifold and the 2100 carb. The easiest way is to get a Clifford 4 BBL manifold and use a 4 bbl to 2 bbl adaptor. I didn't do that! I made phenolic adapter to mount the 2 bbl to the stock single barrel manifold. I oriented the carb the same way that it would be on a V8. In my installation there was enough slack in the throttle cable to make the change. Orienting the carb the way I did put the throttle lever on driver side which helped. Here are some pics of the adapter and the install.

I did have to cut and re-weld the stock throttle cable bracket to rotate it 90 degrees. It runs great and seems to be the perfect size carb for the 300. The cruise control even fit right up and works! (This is on an '84 Bronco, but the carb install was your question!) I also installed the 4.9 efi dual exhaust manifold at the same time and ended up removing the egr. Also I had to run a ground wire to the carb for the electric choke since the phenolic totally isolated the carb.

 

[Pa PITT]

SCOOP .. That's awesome..
I pride myself of thinking outside the box.
But I think I just got school'd ..
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........... And the funniest part of this swap is.. When I had my parts store, from 1967 until 1974 it wa in one location . Then 1974 we moved to the Loop 377 in my town .
.. If someone wants to google up & see my old store ... Maps street views it's 160 W. So.Loop 76401.
TODAY It should be a picture of a NAPA store.
.... So At my store many years later there was an Automatic Repair shop behind my store. The Guy who owned it was Brent Fanning he owned ''UTTER NONSINCE'' the Rocket race car. He owned a Dairy also.. So his Race car had a Fiberglass body & Painted Black & white like a Holstein cow..
... His driver was LARRY BOSTIC I'll come back to him in a minute . But Larry crashed & could not get back into the car.
... But I think he was the driver who set the Old MEXICO land speed record.315 mph .
. But IT crashed & He was not hurt just couldn't do it again.
...... Then Brent could not get ROCKET FUEL .. HIM & THE government were the only Fuel buyers. & He was buying more than the gov.
So It was retired again.
Just for you real old DUDE'S ... That motor was the same .. VERY SAME MOTOR... That had been in the Org Rocket car.. ''THE GREEN HORNET.''.
.... Slightly more to that store I'll try & post another Paragraph on it.
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.... So Larry got out of the driving business but still worked for Brent . ... BRENTS
Wife started driving .. Vicky Fanning .. She drove Utter Nonsince .. It was a Keith Black hemi.. I think. It ran in the low 5's.
... I WENT TO CANADA as part of the pit crew .. Edmonton CAD...
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.... BUT
back to Larry .. Even in 1990 +r- I had that old 300 cid. & I was trying to put many different carbs on it.. & I was looking for an adaptor .. I wanted to put like a 1958 chevy pickup 2 bbl Rochester w/ a Manuel choke ..
.... Larry called me about a year ago looking for a 300 cid. Funny he wanted to put it in a 1953 ford low rider..Or rat rod don't remember.. But I saw him a few months ago & He'd bought a 300 I told him about ... & He's found a holly adapter on E-BAY $45.00
& HE'D PUT THAT 400CFM on it.
.. He said it was SWEET. SCREAMED He said.
.... But Scoop We'd set there at my store ... Say bad weather days .. Trying to think our side the box.. But we never came up with an Adapter like you made.
.... So where did you find that Phenolic material .
........ I'd love to get my old 300 rolling again ... Faithfully...
It's not very dependable at this monument.

 

[Pa PITT]

... Larry was a mechanic at the Local FORD House forever but he got all he could take one day & quite. His tool box had wheels on it.
.. Larry was one of those GUYS that is everyone Buddy.
. Always helpful ..
These Guys are all locals but .. Local Bad Asses . Last of that dying bred of old time hot roders..
... Brent was know as Crusher .. He had all kind of hot rods.. Another Guy R.D. Ford. another great mechanic. He had a very nice 1976 Bronco auto & ac his daily driver. R.D.'s nice rod was a 1970 Boss 302.. But mr High Way Patrol caught him.
... Yesterdays world .. 2am let him go cause he made it home.
.. Same High Way Dudley. Failed to catch, ONE NIGHT, a kid with a 66 chevyII 350hp 327cid 4 speed & 308 rears at that time.
... BUT DUDLEY showed up at the gas station I worked at the next morning ... Filled up his SPECIAL PURSUIT 440 DART W/2.73'S. hE SAID SOMETHING like .. Kid don't run from me again .. I'LL PUT YOU ON JAIL NEXT TIME. YOU PEGGED MY RADAR AT 150.
.. THERE's only 2 cars in this town that'll run that fast & He'd already caught R'D.
.. I KNOW IT WAS YOU .. Don't do it again. Yes sir ..
... I was too far ahead of him when he got started .. & I had a Hiddy Hole to hide in. I saw him go by & even come back by ..
... BUT I WAS a good boy after that.
... & Several more that I should give credit too but it's late.
.... I have no Idea how we lived through those days.
But DAMN WE HAD FUN.
... Some Rides I had 1956 chevy 2 door post 301 cid 11.1 pistons & 2 4's WCFB's & 4:56 p/trac..
... 1955 chevy 2door post 327 250 hp & 3 speed O/D & 4;11's.
...1961 chevy bubble top 327 340hp ..3 speed hurts never could come up with the.. do/ray/me. for a 4 speed.. & several rear's .
... & 1966 chevyII.
...& 1970 CHEVELLE SS 402 SWEET ..
.LOTS of nice rides.
& several more.

 

[Scoop]

LOL! Great stories Pa!

I got the phenolic on eBay. They sell scrap pieces in odd sizes on eBay. I got a 1/2" thick by about 2' x 2' for less than $100. The stuff is not cheap but you can work it with wood working tools. It's very stiff and resistant to gasoline. Good stuff. I've made egr block off plates, fuel fuel pump block of planes, electrical insulators and other items. Just use the gaskets as templates on how to cut it and use a sanding disk and barrel sanders to shape it and finish the edges. It drills well and hole saws work on it too. It's supposed to take a tap as well but I would not trust a tapped hole for any strength applications.

 

[Pa PITT]

... WOW, I'M FEELING SHELTERED. On my own thinking out side the box.. I've know what Phenolic's is from my parts house days. Seems like if it was on timing gears. We called it Hoof material but if it was on a spacer or a disk it was Phenolic .