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Add-a-leaf? from Wild Horses

TonyPDX

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I have the Wild Horses 3.5" lift leaf springs on the rear of my Bronco that I installed in 1996. Now that I have a tire rack on it the back rides lower than I would like, even with the top off and empty. I was looking at adding the add-a-leaf the Wild Horses offers for their 3.5" leaf springs.

Has anyone done this, and does it screw up the ride or suspension travel?

Thanks, Tony
 

DirtDonk

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Hey Tony, sorry it took so long to get an answer to you.
We don't actually have add-a-leaves for our springs anymore. The ones you see on our site (#1484 for 2.5" and #1490 for 3.5") are for stock spring packs, to complement a front lift.
They're not specifically designed for our 9, 10 or 11-leaf WH spring packs.

We used to offer a long single leaf that was matched up to our springs, to shore them up for added lift, or added capacity, or to bring them back from a slightly sagged condition. But that was a long time ago.

Sorry for the confusion. While that text is laid out on the 2.5" version I notice the page for the 3.5" does not contain any description to that effect.
I'll see if I can change that.

In the meantime, I do not have an alternative for you. Not sure what others have used, but maybe someone will see this and chime in with their details.
A local spring company could probably produce a leaf of the proper length and material to do what you need. Any chance you have a working weight for the rear of your Bronco at this point? That information might help them.
Local spring shops used to be pretty cheap to deal with, but anymore I don't know if that's held true.

Good luck.

Paul
 
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TonyPDX

TonyPDX

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Paul, that is disappointing but thanks for clearing that up. Would you be able to get the specifications on the old 3.5" spring so I could have one made?

Thanks, Tony
 

DirtDonk

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I kind of doubt it, but I sure don't mind asking!
I'll dig around and see if can rustle them up. Pretty old stuff though, and the springs are slightly different now, but you never know.

Paul
 

garberz

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I consider leaf springs a consumable item, like tires, shocks and brakes. It may be time to upgrade to a new set.

Mark
 

Bronco4x4

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You can order Deaver springs in heavy duty. I bought a set of heavy duty 2.5" leaf springs from Duff.
 

rguest3

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25 year old rear springs with lots of use? I would get another set. As stated, Heavy Duty might be better for you too depending on how heavy that rack is on the back?

Add-A-Leafs tend to be too stiff.
 

DirtDonk

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A typical add-a-leaf is usually too stiff, but a single similar-design leaf added to a spring pack like I think Tony was asking about (?) won't increase the ride harshness more than say, the difference between a 10-leaf 2.5" and an 11-leaf 3.5" spring pack.
Also should not effect flex negatively my much. You could probably measure it, but I'm not sure you could feel or see it under normal conditions.

But I should have added last night too Tony, that even if I do find the old specs, it might not do you any good as not only have the features and design parameters changed slightly over the years (several times in small increments) but even the leaf material the companies are now using is different. Like SAE vs Metric even. Different thicknesses, rates and maybe even lengths.
If we changed the location of one of the clamps, the old leaf specs might not even be valid.

The best way I think, would be to let the spring manufacturer you use do the eyeballing and measuring for you. Choose whether you want a long one mounted up high (the best design I think) or a shorter one mounted mid-pack or lower, and how long it would be to fit into the pack in a natural order.
And with whatever spring materials the guy happens to like using.

Of course, that's a nice cop-out and attempt to get me off the hook in case I can't find out the specs too!%)

I too have always considered springs a wear item, but acknowledge that there have always been several ways to fix an issue. Re-arching, adding a leaf, adding a block, or full replacement. If it works, I've never considered up to a 1" block a bad solution. Not the best option of any of them, but not a deal-breaker either.
But when an individual "fix" starts to get near the price of a new pack though, replacement was always the way to go.

Paul
 
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