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am i getting jipped?? please help ASAP

earthman3

New Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2004
Messages
4
Loc.
Los Angeles
my truck got stolen 2 weeks ago, which has forced me to buy something other than this rental car. I found this good lookin' bronco, and was wondering if this guy is asking way too much for it, and if so, what would be a more legit asking price. Here's the specs:

Year: 1972
- brand new 302 V8 w/ 200 miles
- custom chrome package on engine
- removeable hard top
- removeable bikini top
- manual 3-speed w/ 4-wheel drive
- power steering recently installed
- new radiator recently installed
- new water pump recently installed
- interior of cab has recently been sprayed with that rubber bedliner material and then recarpeted w/ Mercedes carpeting
- original hubcaps
- no stereo

The brakes are not disc brakes, so they don't respond that well, and the transmission seams decent when I test drove it.

The owner is asking $15,000 for it. What do you guys think it is worth???

Thanks!!
Scott
 

72bronco

Bronco Guru
Joined
May 23, 2001
Messages
2,292
Those specs don't look all that impressive for somebody who is asking for $15,000. For that kind of money I would expect a whole lot more. There are early broncos out there worth that kind of money, but not that one. Keep walking.
 

eBronc

Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2001
Messages
725
Loc.
Austin, Texas
Too much for too little. Early Broncos have been increasing in value lately, but there's always the yahoos that try to jump on the bandwagon and all of sudden think their truck is plated in solid gold or something.

"Custom chrome package" probably means some Pep Boys valve covers and maybe a thermostat housing.

"Removable hard top" - well duh, they're ALL removable.

"Removable bikini top" - ditto. A few square yards of material and some straps.

"3 spd manual and 4 wheel drive" - most EB owners who have a 3 spd are looking for something to replace it, and you can't hardly GIVE one away. ALL EB's are 4 wheel drive - unless some poor misguided soul has removed the transfer case.

"Power steering recently installed" - could be a very good thing.

"New radiator recently installed" - could be a good thing - but why did it need to be changed? High mileage? Same thing with the water pump. Hey, if it has a "brand new 302" installed less than 200 miles ago, why did it need a new water pump also? Didin't the new engine come with a new water pump?

They put MERCEDES carpet in a BRONCO? Over bedliner? WEIRD.

"Original hubcaps" - I guess that could be good, if you plan to run the wimpy stock steel wheels forever.

"No stereo" - $15,000 for what sounds like a run of the mill, pretty much everyday Bronco, and there's NO stereo?

Pass.
 

edjolly

Sr. Member
Joined
Aug 23, 2002
Messages
357
Loc.
Denver Colorado
Man, I don't know. It does have the original hubcaps...

For 15K it had better either be Rubicon ready, or bone stock and showroom perfect. This one is neither.

Ed
 

raharr3

Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 29, 2003
Messages
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Loc.
Linden,Ca
I wish it was worth 15k because then I can just dream about how much I could get for mine.;D ;D
 

72Sport

Bronco Guru
Joined
Jul 8, 2002
Messages
2,954
Keep Looking. Buy the Truck Trader and Recyler tomorrow and start looking. The high priced ones are up for sale for a long time.
 

CrazyHorse70

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Jan 28, 2003
Messages
217
Loc.
Austin
Brand new 302 w/200 mi. AND new water pump recently installed? Come on, is this guy reaching or what! Run, don't walk away. If something smells a little fishy, that means it stinks. I'm sure you can find a better deal than that in the "Broncos For Sale" section on this site.
 
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earthman3

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Joined
Jul 6, 2004
Messages
4
Loc.
Los Angeles
thanks for everyone's help....that website "collectorcartrader.com" alone helped me understand that this guy is asking more than this bronco is worth.

does anyone have a bronco specific dealer in the los angeles area that they would recommend? I've heard there are a couple out there.

Thanks again,
Scott
 

72bronco

Bronco Guru
Joined
May 23, 2001
Messages
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The truck trader is one of the best sources. Also scan the online ads on this site, recycler, etc. Take your time and look at a lot of them before you buy. After you see a few dozen you'll get a feel for appropriate pricing. Here are some key things to look for:

- Avoid rust. Rust is your enemy. Mild rust can be overcome, but major body cancer translates into lots of work and additional investment.
- Decide whether you want a modified or original condition bronco and shop accordingly. Original condition is harder to find.
- Later model options are a nice plus. Things like power steering, disc brakes, power brake booster, auto tranny, large gas tanks, fuel injection, roll cages, etc are a big plus and usually more desirable.
- Fully inspect the vehicle for mechanical and electrical defects. If you're not good with cars then bring a friend who is. Just because somebody says the engine was recently rebuilt doesn't mean it was or that they did a good job. Don't assume anything with a 30+ year old vehicle.
- Broncos can be customized and most parts are plentiful. Don't get stuck on having certain features and end up passing on a good truck. If it doesn't have disc brakes or power steering but is otherwise a great deal you can always add it later. Just make sure to factor it into your purchase price.
- Do your research. There is a wealth of knowledge available on this site. Don't be afraid to ask questions.
- There are good ways and bad ways to modify a truck. Just because it has a lift doesn't mean it was done right. Again, do your research so that you understand what you are looking for.
- Understand what options exist in each model year. For example some early broncos have a dana 30 front axle, which is a lot weaker than the dana 44 on later models. If you plan on wheeling your truck you need to try to find one that is well built with all the right components. T-linkage versus Y-linkage, 6 cylinder versus V8, manual versus auto, drum brakes versus disc brakes... Again, this takes research.
 

daddyo

Full Member
Joined
Aug 9, 2003
Messages
262
Loc.
Southern California
earthman3 said:
my truck got stolen 2 weeks ago, which has forced me to buy something other than this rental car. I found this good lookin' bronco, and was wondering if this guy is asking way too much for it, and if so, what would be a more legit asking price. Here's the specs:

Year: 1972
- brand new 302 V8 w/ 200 miles
- custom chrome package on engine
- removeable hard top
- removeable bikini top
- manual 3-speed w/ 4-wheel drive
- power steering recently installed
- new radiator recently installed
- new water pump recently installed
- interior of cab has recently been sprayed with that rubber bedliner material and then recarpeted w/ Mercedes carpeting
- original hubcaps
- no stereo

The brakes are not disc brakes, so they don't respond that well, and the transmission seams decent when I test drove it.

The owner is asking $15,000 for it. What do you guys think it is worth???

Thanks!!
Scott

Yes, you are getting jipped. Is this at a used car lot?

Hard tops and bikini tops are cheap, so those are not selling
points.

Three speed manuals are common, but not desireable.

All Broncos had four wheel drive.

Chrome is no big thing, and it is cheap to do.

The new engine stuff is easy and relatively cheap to
do, and you don't know that it was done right.

Power steering is cool, if it is done right. A factory
sytem retrofitted is about $1000.

The spray in bedliner with carpet over it makes me nervous.
It sounds like a rust cover-up to me.

If it is not rusty, and the body is good, then he is asking
double what it is worth.

There are plenty of good rigs out there. If you are
in the L.A. area, send me an email.

Andrew
 

thegreatjustino

Contributor
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Jan 23, 2002
Messages
16,285
Loc.
Stockton, CA
Yes it's overpriced. You don't mention how much if any lift, or the overall condition of the body. Being in California, the prices do tend to be higher, but worst case, I'd say $8000, so about half. Just like a bunch of other posters have said.
 

66horse

Bronco Guru
Joined
Jan 7, 2002
Messages
3,394
Glad you came by and asked.


The cool thing is for the money you were looking at spending on that Bronco gives you a LOT of options.

By something really really nice or buy something less nice and make it how you want it.

Good luck!
Steve
 
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