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clutch release rod

marty

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ok so after i pulled apart my truck i have noticed my clutch linkage was pretty worn out. so i ordered up all new stuff from JBG. i received it on thursday and went to install saturday. i noticed the adjusting rod has a very large hole and it is not exactly a round hole. it has a flat side. so i proceed to the original parts manual from 1969 and it shows the same type hole but i can not see how this could work without some sort of a bushing. it doesn't show one in the breakdown but the hole in this rod is huge and the shaft it is suppose to ride on is smaller. it seems it would be very sloppy. anyone ever run into this problem and have a good explaination as to how it will work.
 

Revelation

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No bushing, they never had them from the factory, Rod, Washer, pin, good to go!
 
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marty

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the hole in the one i got is huge compared to the pin that rides inside it. it is way to sloppy. could i have the wrong rod.
 
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marty

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i can't understand how a pin which is round is going to work with a rod that has a huge hole with a flat side. its like a round peg in a square hole. i don't get it. and how come wild horses sells a bushing for it and jbg doesn't. i guess i will be on the phone with jbg tomorrow.
 

Revelation

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The little pin goes in the large, flat sided hole with no bushing, Dunno why Ford did it that way but my best guess is that is why the engineers at Ford get paid the big bucks.
 
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marty

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i can understand it if the the pin was one size and the hole in the rod was almost the same size but this thing is like almost like super loose.
 

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When I replaced mine almost thirty years ago, I bought a generic off-the-shelf "universal" rod that was pretty much as you describe.
I honestly can't remember exactly what the original looked like, but I'm pretty sure that the fit was much better, even without a bushing because the size of the opening in the original rod was much closer in size to it's attaching point than the new one. And I think it might even have been round. What's your original one look like marty? Did you say it's got the same shape hole as the new one? If so, guess my memory is fading on that point. But I know for a fact that the old one did fit better than the new one did.
Maybe the flat edge gives it less slop, or just makes it thicker so that, even though there's less stress at that point, might make it less prone to cracking at it's thin edge? Dunno.

So my new one was different enough, but in my case I was able to make a passable bushing from stuff I found in Dad's stuff laying around the garage.
Seems to me I found some kind of grommet-looking thingy with a metal sleeve molded in and "made" it fit. Gotta' love those Depression-era hoarders!
I fully expected it to squeeze or crush out of the rod, but it stayed in all these years.

Hmm, the engine is out, but I think my linkage is still in the truck. I'll take a look-see tomorrow and see if it's just like my memory tells me, or what. I still have the original too, but it's pretty deeply buried in there somewhere. I'd be curious to hear what yours is like though.
In my case, the memory all by itself just ain't gonna' cut it.

Just to check, LMC Truck has this picture on page 61 of their cat.
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/fbr/full.aspx?Page=61
Can't tell at this resolution, but the picture at least, looks like a round hole and is showing two washer-like thingies in that location. Wonder if they had "shoulders" on them that acted like a bushing? Not doubting you Revelation, but maybe they had something like spacers that kept the movement to a minimum. Mine didn't, but for all I know they were worn out by then. Like all my other plastic bushings (brake and clutch pedals, tire carrier, etc.) were.

You might call LMC marty, to see if the one they're selling is just like the other's with the flat side, or has a round hole.
Probably worth at least one phone call.

Paul
 

VT_Don

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The OEM clutch linkage is about as crude a mechanism as could be made. It rattles, wears badly, and binds easily.

I recreated the linkage in all my older, Ford vehicles to use stainless rod ends with stainless shafts. The shaft between the peddal & arm, has RH & LH threads. Like a turnbuckle, can fine adjust it in place. The shaft beween the arm and fork has a stainless, spherical thrust surface.

The cars shift like a dream with excellent feel for clutch engagement. Easy enough to make yourself.
 
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marty

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well i am thinking of maybe getting a piece of stainless rod the same size as the shaft sticking out of the equilizer and using that as a guide to weld around the hole of the adjustable rod end. now when i remove the rod the weld shouldn't stick to the stainless i hope and it should leave behind a clean hole that should just need some clean up attention to the welded sides. or i could just weld the entire hole completely and redrill the hole. either way it think it needs to be done this way. and yes it has to wavy washers. one on each side of the rod.
 

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The stainless will become part of the rod! Stainless welds, rather nice I might add.
 

d.c.parris

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i think the odd hole has something to do with the clutch equalizer bar being mounted between the frame and engine something to do with engine movement and clutch pedal shake or movement .mine came from the factory like that and after over 500.000 miles still looks good and works perfect. drive it every day without a problem, my motto if it works leave it alone.
 
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