I couldn't find a half door I liked, and I especially didn't like the soft or half doors with to be used with the inserts. I think a jeep owner invented those inserts. I decided I would start with my own set of real doors and make them to my liking. Not much cold weather here in southern Ca and the chances of driving in the rain are slim. I removed teh guts for the windows and welded up the top for my own set of half doors.