How did I miss this.....starter upgrade?

[oldiron]

I've been playing with early broncos for years and considered myself at least fairly knowledgable. I was doing a little research last night and discovered that I can use a PMGR starter (92-93 5.0 mustang auto) to replace my direct drive starter???? Is that it? Just replace the starter and do a little rudimentary re-wiring and your done? It CAN'T be that easy.
What's the catch??:?
Greg

 

[WorkerBee]

There's no catch. It's that easy. Not sure on the mustang part but I used the manual transmission starter from an F150 with a 302. I think I paid 70 bucks and every parts house on earth has it in stock.

Just make sure you match the transmission since the engage depth is different.

 

[73azbronco]

Shhhhh!, Lets keep this our little secret.

 

[hyghlndr]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Ford-Mini-PMGR-Racing-Starter-302-351-Higher-Torque-/130682177932?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e6d43c98c&vxp=mtr

Installed several of these, good quality and shipped quickly. Pulls less electric, starts quicker, smaller...a no brainer.

 

[valveamp]

Are you saying that the starter in the ebay ad will bolt right in and work with no other mods or additional hardware? I have a stock 302 with the stock 3-speed transmission.

 

[hyghlndr]

Click on the seller's "other items" and then search 302 starter. There will be several choices depending on the manual trans you have (less than $60). I simply bolted mine right in. You do need to change 2-3 wires which is very easy. They come with a simple one page instruction sheet.

"50% weight reduction and requiring less cranking amps while
cranking with twice the torque!"

 

[badmuttstang]

Yeah no problems running them as you stated just a few wires to change and as workerbee said make sure you match up transmissions they do have a different depth range.

 

[1970mule]

yeah I looked at all the 302 starters and none said they would work with my setup. I have a 3 speed. any ideas most of the M/T said they work with most 4 speeds.

 

[ren71]

yeah I looked at all the 302 starters and none said they would work with my setup. I have a 3 speed. any ideas most of the M/T said they work with most 4 speeds.

I'm running a late model starter with a 3speed manual. Works great. If I recall correctly, the one for a late model automatic is the correct one. But I'm not 100% sure.

I think the 4speed and the 3 speed should have the same flywheel and same mounting specs.

The link below should be helpful or confuse the matter even more =)

http://www.bcbroncos.com/ford%20starters.pdf

 

[1970mule]

I'm running a late model starter with a 3speed manual. Works great. If I recall correctly, the one for a late model automatic is the correct one. But I'm not 100% sure.

I think the 4speed and the 3 speed should have the same flywheel and same mounting specs.

The link below should be helpful or confuse the matter even more =)

http://www.bcbroncos.com/ford%20starters.pdf

thanks I will do a little more research.

 

[bronconut73]

Love mine. Sounds neat too.

 

[707Bronk]

"50% weight reduction and requiring less cranking amps while
cranking with twice the torque!"

Plus they last a lot longer. At least mine and the ones I know of has.

 

[69red]

I pulled mine from a 94 f150 at the junk yard with a MT and it works fine with my stock 3spd.

you just move the big cable from the starter to the hot side of the solenoid and run a new 10ga wire from the small lug on the starter to the cold side if the solenoid. done.

 

[bigcountry]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Ford-Mini-PMGR-Racing-Starter-302-351-Higher-Torque-/130682177932?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e6d43c98c&vxp=mtr

Installed several of these, good quality and shipped quickly. Pulls less electric, starts quicker, smaller...a no brainer.

You wouldn't happen to have a part# from this seller for a manual transmission would you?

 

[Broncobowsher]

The small block starter fall into two different catagories. Manual or automatic transmission. The only oddity, the mustang 5-speed (the T5 for sure). It is a manual transmission, but uses the automatic starter. Other then that a starter for an automatic transmission is for an automatic, a manual is for a manual.

So if you see a starter for a 4-speed, or out of a stick shift truck, that will with the Bronco 3-speed.

 

[bigcountry]

ok, thanks.

 

[jerry]

Great info guys - Thanks!