How to do a complete Hydroboost Kit?

[Loca-Motives]

Hi, I am looking at our Bronco part vendors and they sell a Hydroboost kit but it doesnt have the pump? Am I to assume its run off the power steering pump? I am looking to install a complete kit and figure you guys have already got a solution. Hit me with a link if this has already been addressed. Thanks, David

 

[DirtDonk]

Yes, the power steering pump is routed through the new hydroboost setup first, then over to the power steering. Both have a return to the pump.
The return is either handled by adding a "T" fitting to your return line, or utilizing a dual-return power steering pump if you don't already have a good pump.

Best to use a more powerful/higher volume style pump, vs a stock Early Bronco (Thomson style) pump with the metal housing and small dipstick/fill neck.

Can't speak for the other vendors, but likely all of us sell the kits separately because so many EB's are already equipped with power steering.
It's not a bad idea to offer a single kit with all you'd need, but it's still relatively easy to purchase the hydroboost brake system and power steering pump kits separately.

Each installation is different. A lot of people even opt out on the hydraulic lines to make their own. Some even order the hydro-boost without a master cylinder. Some buy lines, some don't. Some buy masters some don't. Some buy pumps, some don't.
I'd have to say that's why you don't see a full kit yet.

Paul

 

[Loca-Motives]

Do you recommend a separate pump dedicated only to the brakes?

 

[DirtDonk]

Oh, and even with the pumps, not everyone wants the same thing.
Some are running old Ford pumps, some newer Ford pumps. Some have already converted to the "canned ham" style (GM Saginaw/Delphi style) and now more and more are running Ford Explorer pumps.

It's just not very convenient to put a kit together because it's not one-size-fits-all anymore.
But you can call in to any of us I'm sure, and they can put it together for you right on the phone. If you're more of an internet person, simply e-mail your info and what you need and it's put together how you need it.
I realize that's not the same as having one handy part number for you to order, but it's relatively painless anyway.
Until you have to pay for it!

As far as that goes, naturally we'd be happy to at least give you a quick quote including all the parts you'd need and shipping to your neck of the woods.
If you're an e-mail kind of person, send a quick inquiry to sales@wildhorses4x4.com with a price request. Just let us know what year your Bronco is, and what, if any modifications have been done. Such as engine size, existing power steering and what type, what it is you're looking for and any such stuff you can think of that might be pertinent.

And if you're looking for more trick looking stuff for under the hood, you have a '75 or earlier, and want a relatively easy bolt-on with brake lines set up to go to the existing H-block (assuming it's still there) then our MOAB kit might be for you: WH MOAB Brake System

Paul

 

[DirtDonk]

Do you recommend a separate pump dedicated only to the brakes?

No. Not really needed I don't think, and there's really not a lot of real-estate available for such a system under the hood of a Bronco anyway.
And you'd be going the exact opposite of your initial question. There would definitely be no such thing as a single part number off-the-shelf kit of any kind.
Nobody except maybe a racing fab company would have a secondary bracket for a second pump. The engineering costs might not be worth the result.

And double the things to go wrong!

Paul

 

[DirtDonk]

Oh, and by the way, welcome to classicbroncos too!

You just get your Bronco more recently? Or have you owned it (or other Broncos) for a long time now?

Paul

 

[Loca-Motives]

Thank you Paul. We have a 1974 that is really a classic but well sorted. We want to keep that one relatively chassis and stock. My girl drives that. Then I have a 1966 that I bought that is not nearly in the condition i was hoping. I want to do complete steering, hydroboost brakes, convert fron dana 30 to dana 44 front axle, engine change and c4 to nv3550 conversion.

 

[DirtDonk]

Lots of good stuff in it's future then.
Will you run larger tires and/or go off-roading with it? If not I would not stress too much over finding a good Bronco Dana 44.
If any of those are in it's future though, a 44 is a good upgrade.

If you convert the 30 to disc brakes using the standard kit parts, they will also transfer over to any future 44 swaps.

Have fun with both Broncos!

Paul

 

[Digger556]

I don't have much to add, but wanted to emphasize Paul's point that hydroboost systems wildly varied. I have never seen two trucks with exactly the same components.

This is largely due to the varied nature of people's builds. Some are very OE with stock pumps, some are very modern with full Explorer front dresses. Some, like mine, are a big mix of parts, usually with a canned ham pump.

There are almost too many options for brackets, hydroboost units, master cylinders, plumbing, etc.

 

[AZ73]

If you buy a modified pump which runs a lot of pressure like a Steerco/ARG super pump, you won't be able to use a hydroboost. Ask me how I know %)