Is There any way to escape Chinese junk?

[dougsride]

ahh chi-com crap. I threw some of their monkey crap at my last bronco build and it just would'nt stick so I put refurbed original on. My new build will have the least amount of commie crap as possible. I'm waiting til they outlaw us driving these old relics. Then I guess I will be an outlaw.

 

[reamer]

Don't think any panels are made here, Because WE don't want to pay $845.99 for a fender.
It's simple, Ge-wong-hong gets $15 a day to punch out fenders, and they can dump the old paint in the river behind the non-AC building, and don't require respirators and they don't know about medical and dental....

Now I'm sure YOU want $48 an hour, 3 weeks off and a 10% match on your 401k, Soooo off the China they went.....It's our fault, we want to pay nothing to rebuild a Bronco, so we deal with it and do some body-work fitment.
Just bought the "bronco in a box", @ 47 body panels for a complete tub (tailgate to grille) Not 1 panel fit properly, a cut needed here, a bend-need-there, and lots of grinding.
Got to deal with it......

 

[rydog1130]

This wouldn't be an issue if we listened back in the 70s and learned the metric system.

according to my gramps we were supposed to have dropped the standard system lol

 

[jckkys]

All this stuck with me because it all hurt. My military promotions were frozen by Nixon supposedly to slow inflation while low life libs were spitting on GIs in airports. Jobs were hard to find and inflation ate any raises faster than we got them. So we got rid of Nixon (who loved the ChiComs) then we got stuck with Carter who made things worse. About then I got married and hoped to buy a home, but there were no affordable mortgages. Those were the days.

 

[jckkys]

There was some good news in '77, when I bought my new '77 Bronco. I still have it tho it's now legally a '68 to get away from the emissions crap. It's also safer and better looking then new.

 

[roundhouse]

I replaced a clutch on a 90 F150 and it was a nice totally random mix of metric and standard.

 

[SP73]

I replaced a clutch on a 90 F150 and it was a nice totally random mix of metric and standard.

Yep. Unfortunately that’s the way it is nowadays.

P.S. I love the Dr. Keyes quote in your sig!

 

[jckkys]

I love my cousin Alan (really we just share our last name). He saw through all the BS.

 

[reamer]

Is it junk or "conformance to specifications" they are making stuff to a specification, is it worse than a FORD part? probably...but did it meet the (American) vendors specification? yes.
Tighten the spec, the "better the part....

 

[Cooter_76]

I remember listening to a podcast where Jonathan Ward from ICON was the guest. He was explaining why the reproduction body panels fit so poorly. I think it went something like this:
- If a body panel didn't fit well on the assembly line, they set that panel aside.
- The discarded panels were the ones shipped to dealers & body shops as replacement parts. The body shops would have to do whatever was needed to make them fit.
- The current reproduction panels used these replacement parts as their templates
I don't know if that info is accurate, but it would explain why everyone complains about replacement body panel fitment.

 

[Shimmy]

in todays Great US of A it is extremely challenging to find 100% american made. even vendors that state made in the USA still have to rely on non USA suppliers to get their materials, tooling, equipment, etc.

 

[sprdv1]

in todays Great US of A it is extremely challenging to find 100% american made. even vendors that state made in the USA still have to rely on non USA suppliers to get their materials, tooling, equipment, etc.

it can be done though..

 

[Shimmy]

it can be done though..

probably but i can't think of one company that truly 100% does

 

[bronkenn]

I remember listening to a podcast where Jonathan Ward from ICON was the guest. He was explaining why the reproduction body panels fit so poorly. I think it went something like this:
- If a body panel didn't fit well on the assembly line, they set that panel aside.
- The discarded panels were the ones shipped to dealers & body shops as replacement parts. The body shops would have to do whatever was needed to make them fit.
- The current reproduction panels used these replacement parts as their templates
I don't know if that info is accurate, but it would explain why everyone complains about replacement body panel fitment.

I worked for GM Truck back in the 70's and we would build a whole run of panels and send them through the paint shop and dip them and they would get shipped to the parts warehouse for service. They were the same ones used on the trucks we built.