Moog springs

[Sherlock]

I've read numerous posts about the Moog springs and am looking for a vendor that sells the CC810 springs. Summit doesn't have them and my local Oriellys says they're no longer available. Does anyone know of a vendor that still sells them?

 

[TX SS]

I'm running these and bought them from JC Whitney. I had trouble finding them back in mid 2014 so it doesn't surprise me you are having difficulty now. There has to be a set out there somewhere. Hope you can find them.

 

[Sherlock]

Yikes. I thought maybe it was my not being able to search effectively. The Moog website still lists them so I'm going to contact them directly.

 

[garberz]

Why not take advantage of any of our vendors experience in state of the art manufacturing, specific to our Broncos? I'd say the Moog coils would just be standard replacements. There's much better products out now.

 

[clarrance]

Let us know if you find the CC810's I've been looking for a set too.

 

[TX SS]

Why not take advantage of any of our vendors experience in state of the art manufacturing, specific to our Broncos? I'd say the Moog coils would just be standard replacements. There's much better products out now.

I wanted to buy from a Bronco vendor but couldn't find or get a straight answer on what would give me a 1" front lift/level on a stock Bronco. I researched here on the forum and found a couple of members that had installed the CC810s with success and for the $110 cost with free shipping it was worth the gamble to me. I would have gladly paid more from a Bronco vendor if they could have told me with certainty what I'd get but none could do so.

 

[dave67fd]

I would think any "new" stock spring would give you 1" above your old. Curious were that would put you after they settle in a year or two.

 

[cldonley]

I bought big bronco stock springs from Rockauto for about 1-1 1/2" lift. They are Moog. Rockauto lists an 820 and 818 Moog spring set for under 100$ shipped. I can give you my frame to spring measurement later today if you're interested.

 

[Sherlock]

Like TX SS mentioned, I had similar results after inquiring with a vendor (only one) that could get me that "magic" 1 inch lift on a stock bronco. I also did a search on coils and the Moog 810 came up on several posts as a very good variable rate coil that could just bring up the front enough where I didn't have to rest my chin on the steering wheel to see the traffic signal light (**exaggeration on my part but you get the idea**), alleviate the slightly nose down stance on my 76 bronco, and take some dirt road washboard punishment without bottoming out.

I'm not having any success with finding the CC810s at this stage and I found the following Moog coil info on this site (might be a bit dated):
CC812 (stock EB replacement)- 16.300" free height, 250 lb/in. rate
CC810 (F100-150 6cyl 4x4 replacement)- 17.000" free height, 300 lb/in. rate
CC814 (F100-150 HD 4x4 replacement)- 17.500" free height, 330 lb/in. rate
CC816 (F100-150 HD 4x4 over 6350 GVW)- 18.250" free height, 330 lb/in. rate

It looks like the CC814 might be the next option for what I'm looking for. Cldonley, I'm interested in frame to spring measurement. How long have you had them and have they settled at all? I'll have to research the spring rate on the 820 and 818

Thanks.

 

[TX SS]

Pictures for those who are interested. Stock sagging original springs in first picture versus Moog CC810 in second and third pictures. My Bronco is a U153 with HD rear springs so the rear sits higher than normal which is why I wanted the front 1" lift/level over stock.

 

[Sherlock]

Well, I did manage to track down a set of CC810s. It's through my local NAPA. Coils are in Tennessee and I'm on the west coast (Seattle area) so I'll have to pay freight (~$180 total). My frugality (read cheapness) kicked in initially but ordered them nevertheless. NAPA guy says they're aren't a frequently requested item.......

Next question..is the part number stamped on the springs so I can be certain that I'm getting CC810s and not something just "close" to a CC810? Seems I read somewhere substitutions have been known to happen....guess I could just go with the 17 inch free height....

 

[elan]

Lads,
Coil springs start their descent into the spring graveyard after ten years or so. Sagging is common. When I see used coils for sale, I simply chuckle and think what poor unsuspecting victim will buy a DOA item. I ordered new coils three months ago from on of our vendors. All is good, perfect fit and ride height.

You can also order springs from Eaton Spring in Detroit. Made in merca'. When I was doing early Mustangs they were my go to company for springs, front and rear. The cost is, well, a bit more.

Moog products are top notch.

O'Really..........is headed downhill unless you want oil or some car wax. They were good not to long ago, but now, not so much.

 

[DirtDonk]

My Moogs "lasted" about 3 or 4 years, but that was just a little sag and not really a failure. Just normal settling. Lost about 1/2" at that point, but since they were minimal lift anyway, I didn't want to lose that much so I got new ones.
Not long after that, I ended up going with WH 3.5's from the first batch or two of the variables and for some reason they never settled but a 1/4" or so over 10 years of moderately hard use.
Not much use in the last 10 years or so, and can't tell if they've lost their luster until I get the engine installed.

I like to think they're good (naturally!), but I wouldn't expect them all to have that kind of life expectancy and would be happy with 10 years.

Paul

 

[clarrance]

Well, I did manage to track down a set of CC810s. It's through my local NAPA. Coils are in Tennessee and I'm on the west coast (Seattle area) so I'll have to pay freight (~$180 total). My frugality (read cheapness) kicked in initially but ordered them nevertheless. NAPA guy says they're aren't a frequently requested item.......

Next question..is the part number stamped on the springs so I can be certain that I'm getting CC810s and not something just "close" to a CC810? Seems I read somewhere substitutions have been known to happen....guess I could just go with the 17 inch free height....

Where in TN did you find the springs? Did they have any extras?

 

[cldonley]

The measurement from the top of the axle housing to the bottom of the frame is 9-7/16" with Moog 818 springs and WH heavy duty spring seats, measured between the passenger side spring seat and bump stop to the bottom of the frame. I've had them on there about 2 months, but work is still in progress on the rig so that doesn't include any drive time. With an add-a-leaf in the back and these springs in the front I placed a level on my (new) rocker panel and it showed level, slightly elevated in the rear but with the bubble between the lines. Hope that helps!

 

[jckkys]

Moog wasn't the only company to make CC810s. I searched TRW 810 and found a set for $109 shipped here; http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XTRW+C. I've used Moog and TRW coils in several cars and trucks. None have lost any installed height over 25 yrs. The only differences between them and EB venders offerings are the lower price and the known specs. CC810s have 276 lbs. per in. rating and should raise the front end 1.1". You can't get that info from the EB venders, who ask us to just trust them, while keeping the specs to themselves.

 

[Sherlock]

My local NAPA searched their database to find them. He said it was a warehouse in TN and I assumed it was a NAPA warehouse. I'll call them back to see if there are any more.

I've seen TX SS bronco pics and think it has the stance I'm looking for. After searching suspension threads on this site, I came to the conclusion my bronco's suspension is just fine other than my desire to "level" it out with a little lift in the front via springs. I also read suspension threads where folks mention that they purchased springs that were too stiff. It seemed that the Moog cc810 were a nice combo of a little lift without being too stiff. I didn't check out TRW and will keep that in mind. I'm really hoping the CC810s that I'm getting will fit the bill (even if I paid a little more than I wanted too)

 

[jckkys]

If you look at photos of EBs, taken when the trucks were new, you can see that the nose down stance was there from the factory, not a result of sagging as TX SS stated. I addressed this issue in my '77 early in the '80s. The wide selection of coils made for 4X4 F100s, F150s, and '78-'79 Broncos makes it possible to give your EB the stance that looks right. It also cured my Bronco's tendency to bottom out in the front.