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new wobble to front end

blazinchuck

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I just did the front chevy disc conversion. All seems well and right(i.e. bearings,hubs,calipers,rotors)

1st-I know I have a bad ball joint on the top drivers side-the others seems fine.They are getting replaced Thrusday.
2nd-I will be replacing the steering system(tie rod/drag link) very soon, has some play on the tie rod-pass side.
3rd-I do not run a steering dampner
4th-drag link and track bar are parralle(sp)

Ever since the conversion, sometimes when I hit a bump or dip in the road around 30-40mph, the steering wheel will shake back and forth for a few long seconds. I know what bump steer is and had those issues with the old blazer that I owned.I dont feel this is bump steer.Also, I have been driving this daily for the last year-no problems

Any other thoughts on this? Thanks,Chuck?:?
 

trailpsycho

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Sounds like bumpsteer... I had this happen a long time ago when I was still learning alot about these trucks...If you are running without a steering dampener and still using the stock tie-rod without a beefier setup--that could be a factor. At the time, I installed a new steering dampener and that made a big difference.

I would say that you still have bumpsteer, if you are going to install a new ball joint, tie rod and drag link due to problems there, then I would withhold judgement until you deal with that. The wander and vibration you have could be sourced some from the BJ or tie rod problem--depending on how bad they really are....alot of force on these joints. Tight is right. Fix what you have planned and go from there. Good luck.
 

surfer-b

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I had a 78 f-150 4x4 that did the exact same thing it was a combo of bad steering dampner and bad c-bushings after i replaced those no more front-end shimmy's, although if you have play in the tie rods and drag link it could also be those
 

broncnaz

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You've already said your balljoints and steering linkage are bad wait till they are replaced before trying to fix something its not. Worn balljoints do that exact thing your describing.
 

Skuzzlebutt

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broncnaz said:
You've already said your balljoints and steering linkage are bad wait till they are replaced before trying to fix something its not. Worn balljoints do that exact thing your describing.

DITTO!!!
 

JoseyWales

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Reviving this thread - Front wobble

Reviving this thread. I am having the same problem... Sometimes when I hit a rough spot in the road at about 35 mph, the steering will start to wobble. When that happens, I can slow down, and it always goes back to normal. It doesn't usually happen... only sometimes. It only happens when I'm going around 35 mph - not if I'm going slower or faster.

Everything in my front end is new. I have a track bar riser to make it parallel with the drag link. The front end and steering is totally tight with no play, and the Bronco drives like a dream otherwise. It has a new WH steering stabilizer. If there is any bump-steer at all, it is very little because it stays straight going over bumps. I set the toe-in 1/8" using a tape measure, but I haven't changed or checked the camber. I guess the castor/camber/toe-in adjustments and maybe the tire size is the only thing left that could cause that. ?:?
 

bronko69er

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On a related note. I had sloppy steering on my D30 and went through several sets of track bar bushing before I realized that the lower stud had worn. Even new bushings were sloppy. I had to turn a sleeve to press on to return it to an acceptable diameter.
 

El Jefe

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I set the toe-in 1/8" using a tape measure, but I haven't changed or checked the camber. I guess the castor/camber/toe-in adjustments and maybe the tire size is the only thing left that could cause that. ?:?

i didn't know you could adjust camber on the D44!!? (caster can be adjusted via C-bushings and toe by the TREs but i thought camber was pretty much set - unless shims are used on the Ball Joints?)
 

JoseyWales

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i didn't know you could adjust camber on the D44!!? (caster can be adjusted via C-bushings and toe by the TREs but i thought camber was pretty much set - unless shims are used on the Ball Joints?)

Yes, offset bushings are used to correct the camber. I had it done on my F-250 with the Dana 50 front end, and they put an adjustable offset bushing in there of some sort. The fixed offset ones are the most common though I think.
 

buckedupbronc

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Damn Chuck!... Thats a lot to deal with. Just think if you had stayed and picked up a grinder and welder tonight and helped me out you would'nt be dealing with .... bump steer, tie rods ect. ect.

Hank
 

JoseyWales

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I feel stupid. Figured out what the problem was. The stud I welded to my track bar riser bracket broke the weld loose. Glad it didn't fly apart. Thanks for the replies.
 
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