rekoj71
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I've been searching for 3 hours cause I'm sure that half of you have done this and surely posted about it, but maybe I'm just so late to the party that any posts are so far back that I can't find them, so forgive me for posting what is probably considered a basic question.
I have a tired 302 currently and today I just picked up a 351W off of craigslist. the guy knew little about it as it is second hand to him for another project that didn't pan out, but the code on the side seems to tell me it's a 84-91 351w from a truck. The story (if it can be believed but i think it true by the looks of it) is that it was a Jasper rebuild, about 2000 miles but a few years ago. Model car it was in unknown (little to go on I know).
All I want to do is a basic old school swap of changing over the required parts from my 302 to the 351. I know about the alternator and power steering pump modification brackets and have them on order. I like the old school look so I'm not interested in serpentine parts. By what I have heard this should be simple but i just want to verify some things so that if I have to order more parts i might know what year/make/model I need to ask for.
1. Water Pump. the one on my 302 has the lower hose on the passenger side for a normal V8 radiator. The 351 I picked up is opposite, and the thermostat neck is straight up instead of the 45 degree like on my 302. It doesn't look like the water pump bolts line up (just a visual look as the 302 is still in the truck and still my driver) and that I would need to also swap the timing cover to keep the hoses routed the same. Is this correct.
2. Timing Pointer and Balancer. Due to the above lower outlet the pointer is on the other side also, so does my 302 Balancer also swap and work with the 351?
3. Intake thingy. Remember I don't have a specific year/model it was set up for. It didn't come with a carburetor, but the 4bbl intake on it is very flat/low, like I might need a spacer just to lift the carb up a bit so the linkages have room. Anyhow on the drivers side of the intake is a triangle shaped plate that is layed flat, secured by two bolts, and has a small lever/arm sticking out of it (EGR?). I don't know what it's for or what I need or can or should do with it. (I know pic would be helpful but not available right now). It probably had a link to the carb linkage somehow but I don't know for sure.
4. Oil Pan and pick up tube. Our pans obviously have the deep part of the sump at the back and this 351 has it at the front. Will my 302 pan still fit and do I just also swap the oil pickup or do I need some other parts.
5. Anything else I need to know but didn't ask.
If there are parts I need and if you can, could you suggest a year/make/model so the unknowing parts counter computer can find the one you are suggesting or even link to one of our great vendors here?
Again I apologize If the questions seem stupid but I don't want this to be down for much more than a weekend so I would like to have the hard to get parts found ahead of time. Also I didn't find one but if there was already a good how to thread in existence (I tried to find) please feel free to link it for me. Thanks in advance.
Other FYI, I already have the WH Buckaroo hood so I should have room. Transmission is a ZF so already have a hydraulic clutch. The 351 came with a distributor so I hope it works. I have the WH long tube headers which say 289/302/351 so I hope those will still fit and still exit close enough that my current tubes will fit.
I have a tired 302 currently and today I just picked up a 351W off of craigslist. the guy knew little about it as it is second hand to him for another project that didn't pan out, but the code on the side seems to tell me it's a 84-91 351w from a truck. The story (if it can be believed but i think it true by the looks of it) is that it was a Jasper rebuild, about 2000 miles but a few years ago. Model car it was in unknown (little to go on I know).
All I want to do is a basic old school swap of changing over the required parts from my 302 to the 351. I know about the alternator and power steering pump modification brackets and have them on order. I like the old school look so I'm not interested in serpentine parts. By what I have heard this should be simple but i just want to verify some things so that if I have to order more parts i might know what year/make/model I need to ask for.
1. Water Pump. the one on my 302 has the lower hose on the passenger side for a normal V8 radiator. The 351 I picked up is opposite, and the thermostat neck is straight up instead of the 45 degree like on my 302. It doesn't look like the water pump bolts line up (just a visual look as the 302 is still in the truck and still my driver) and that I would need to also swap the timing cover to keep the hoses routed the same. Is this correct.
2. Timing Pointer and Balancer. Due to the above lower outlet the pointer is on the other side also, so does my 302 Balancer also swap and work with the 351?
3. Intake thingy. Remember I don't have a specific year/model it was set up for. It didn't come with a carburetor, but the 4bbl intake on it is very flat/low, like I might need a spacer just to lift the carb up a bit so the linkages have room. Anyhow on the drivers side of the intake is a triangle shaped plate that is layed flat, secured by two bolts, and has a small lever/arm sticking out of it (EGR?). I don't know what it's for or what I need or can or should do with it. (I know pic would be helpful but not available right now). It probably had a link to the carb linkage somehow but I don't know for sure.
4. Oil Pan and pick up tube. Our pans obviously have the deep part of the sump at the back and this 351 has it at the front. Will my 302 pan still fit and do I just also swap the oil pickup or do I need some other parts.
5. Anything else I need to know but didn't ask.
If there are parts I need and if you can, could you suggest a year/make/model so the unknowing parts counter computer can find the one you are suggesting or even link to one of our great vendors here?
Again I apologize If the questions seem stupid but I don't want this to be down for much more than a weekend so I would like to have the hard to get parts found ahead of time. Also I didn't find one but if there was already a good how to thread in existence (I tried to find) please feel free to link it for me. Thanks in advance.
Other FYI, I already have the WH Buckaroo hood so I should have room. Transmission is a ZF so already have a hydraulic clutch. The 351 came with a distributor so I hope it works. I have the WH long tube headers which say 289/302/351 so I hope those will still fit and still exit close enough that my current tubes will fit.
