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Points question

notagain

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Just recently noticed from a cold start, once in reverse and moving, a hesitation not quite a stumble but you know it's heading in that direction. Also the idle speed, when in gear at a stop has changed from relatively smooth to a bit uneven and slower, a bit like it's missing a beat. Had this happen before and tightening the carb down seemed to help, it doesn't now. Could bad points be the cause of these symptoms? Just trying to head this off before it get's to be problematic.

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DirtDonk

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Of course it's hard to pinpoint completely, but yes, points can definitely cause that. In fact, they can be at the core of a whole slew of issues. Right along with a bad condenser.

The only thing for it though, is to dig in there and mess with them. Verify your dwell (if you have a meter), your gap (if you have a feeler gauge) and timing (if you have a timing light). ;D
I make fun, because these days most people don't have any of those three tools. And with a points distributor, you should.

You can start simply though, by running some folded-over fine grit sandpaper between the point contact halves, to make sure they're clean and free from pits. Then verify their gap with something like a matchbook cover, then play with your timing by ear/feel.
That can actually do wonderful things. You just won't know exactly where things sit without the aforementioned tools.

The other solution, if you don't have the tools (or the patience) to mess with points regularly, is to just get rid of the points altogether and get one of the electronic replacement modules like from ACCEL, Mallory, and Pertronix.
Excellent choice in fact, as long as your distributor is in great shape and not in need of a rebuild itself, due to worn bushings and gummed up works.

But start with the messing around part, and let us know how it goes. If you need to know more details about how to clean and adjust, let us know too.

Good luck.

Paul
 

Explorer

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Just to give you an example. I have been fighting my son's Mustang 200I6 for a week! Barely idle if at all. Checked everything I have ever learned. Point gap listed in manuals at .025 or.027 depending on year. V8 is listed as .017 or .021 depending on year. In a "Hail Mary" I regapped to .019 and it cranked right up and runs like a top. Goes to show you how just a little thing can screw with you.
 

itsabronco

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if you do find out that you need to regap your points, I would always set them a bit wider open to allow for wear. Not much, but a loose feel on a feeler gauge, barely any drag. if you know what i mean ... %)
 
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notagain

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Thanks for the help everyone....as soon as I find out exactly where they're located, I should be all set...unfortunately the only points I'm familiar with are the ones I give on Sunday afternoons. Just bought some new ones, have the manual out and toying with the idea of actually opening the hood. This should be good...
 

DirtDonk

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News at eleven!

Take video, and post it up so we can enjoy the learning experience with you. It's not really that hard, but that comment comes from someone who learned to adjust points on a single-cylinder motorcycle at the ripe age of 13.
Then again, I did it the same way as you. Just got out the book and started reading. At least the distributor cap is right in the front on our Fords. Be glad you're not learning on an early GM V8 with it buried in the back, behind the air cleaner and under the cowl!

Good luck And above all, have fun.

Paul
 

Larry B

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And when you get done and tired replaceing points at 20$ a pop you can invest 100$ into the electronics and never work on them agine. I think most of us has went this route
 
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