Power Disc brakes with a 170 motor ?

[coupe66]

Looking to swap a Dana 44 with disc brake in my 66 with the stock 170 motor. My question is does the 170 6cly make enough vacuum to make the brake booster work correctly ?
Thanks Robert

 

[Bronco Brian]

If you spend the money on Vac. brakes why not just go to H/B brakes

 

[broncnaz]

Yes a 170 will make enough vacuum. one of the good things about adding a vac booster to a 170 bronco is you dont have to use the bronco specfic booster.

 

[coupe66]

If you spend the money on Vac. brakes why not just go to H/B brakes

I didn't have to spend any money I have a whole new system from a parts bronco I had. I just wasnt sure it would work on a 6cly.

 

[broncnaz]

Some people forget that to use H boost you also need PS so if you dont have that it drive the price way up.

 

[coupe66]

Some people forget that to use H boost you also need PS so if you dont have that it drive the price way up.

That was actually going to be my next question . How much of a big deal would it be to install power steering with a 6cly ?

I have a extra 76 power steering box but not sure what brackets are needed for a 6cly . I have the needed brackets for a V8 ?:?
Or is powersteering really needed ? I only plan to run 31/10.50x15s

 

[casadejohnson]

That was actually going to be my next question . How much of a big deal would it be to install power steering with a 6cly ?

I have a extra 76 power steering box but not sure what brackets are needed for a 6cly . I have the needed brackets for a V8 ?:?
Or is powersteering really needed ? I only plan to run 31/10.50x15s

Power steering is pretty simple on a straight six. I used a 4x4x2 box instead of a Bronco box on mine. I used the mounting bracket that BC Broncos sells and a saginaw "canned Ham" Steering pump. You will need a dual groove pulley and damper. You can buy a add on pulley for the damper for about $40-50. For the water pump pulley I used one from a Ford Fairmont ( I used a 1981). This required me to use the later (Long Nose) water pump from the fairmont. I also run 31x10.50's and power steering was one of my favorite upgrades.

 

[broncnaz]

Just a little add on you will probably need to fab up some brackets to mount the pump on a 170 even with a mounting bracket.. but it shouldnt be to bad.

 

[casadejohnson]

Just a little add on you will probably need to fab up some brackets to mount the pump on a 170 even with a mounting bracket.. but it shouldnt be to bad.

I did that as well, An easy way to do it is to use a saginaw pump bracket from a ford van. Its steel so you can weld on it, just set your offset to match your pulleys and your set.

 

[thegreatjustino]

You can buy a add on pulley for the damper for about $40-50. .

Curious about this comment. The damper and pulley are an integrated piece on a 170/200 engine. I've converted two 6-cyl Broncos to power steering and have always had to find a dual groove damper. Do you have a link to the add on pulley?

 

[Broncobowsher]

I think BC offeres an I6 power steering pump bracket.

You don't need power steering to run hydroboost, but you do need a power steering pump. just route what should be the hydroobost to steering box high pressure line (now low pressure) back to the pump. You will have 2 return lines still.

 

[bigjhoov]

Robert,

I used a Mustang bracket to add p/s to my 200 a few years ago. I like it over the BC bracket because the tensioner bracket is built it. Shouldn't be too hard for you to find with your Mustang connections.

 

[coupe66]

Great pics Jerry
Do you happen to know what year mustang that bracket was from ? I know at least the 86 -93 foxbody mustangs had aluminum brackets .

 

[bigjhoov]

You have to get one off of a car that came with the same motor, 60's-70's.

 

[coupe66]

You have to get one off of a car that came with the same motor, 60's-70's.

Ok so an old mustang that came with a 6cly and power steering ?

 

[bigjhoov]

yep, like this, http://www.ebay.com/itm/65-66-MUSTA...Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43ac6eea68

Kinda pricey and not the pump I'd run, but that's the bracket.

I'd run the Cardone pump if you can find it.