Saginaw PS Pump ID

[RonJones]

Can anybody ID the part number or donor vehicle of this Saginaw I bought from Chuck at BC Bronco in 2012? Their records don’t go back that far. Its SAE, not metric, and the pressure fitting the nut screws into is o-ring. 3/4” pressed-on shaft. Thx!

 

[toddz69]

If it's SAE and not metric, that means it's a '79 or older pump. My first guess would be Lincoln and it still could be although many of the Lincolns that used Saginaw pumps had dual returns because they were hydroboost cars.

For giggles I looked on Rockauto at '79 Econoline vans and it appears to match the Cardone 206878 pump with the location and shape of its return tube ('79 E250 with 460 engine).

Todd Z.

Todd Z.

 

[SteveL]

I was gonna say late 70s Lincoln but mine is dual return. Maybe try your local napa and see if the Lincoln pump is offered single return. Pretty sure that's what I had before going hydroboost.

 

[Seventee]

I haven't see a late 70's Lincoln that did not have dual return w/hydroboost, but there were a handful of Ford/Mercury sedans/wagons that did.

Edit: I also meant to say that pump does not look familiar to me though.

 

[RonJones]

Thanks, guys! I think Todd Z’s E-150 sure looks like it. I must have looked at 50 different pumps, none with similar return tube. The original PS pump I bought from Chuck in 2002 was a 20-6244, and this one was the replacement in 2012 I have the invoice, but the actual P/N was apparently close-hold intel, as the invoice just says PS pump. I’ll order it and see.

 

[SteveL]

Try and pm chuck. He was always good about disclosing part numbers if guys were trying to save a couple bucks. Keep in mind hes retired so it might take a while for him to get back. I recently PM'ed him about my rear disc set up I bought years ago.

 

[68ford]

The pumps themselves are all the same if you can re-use your reservoir. Any pump will do. Chevy used it since the early 60s and dodge since at least the early 70s.

I recommend reading this and doing these modifications. Likely the same mods as the performance pump places do.

http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/2013/powersteeringmods/

 

[RonJones]

“ The pumps themselves are all the same if you can re-use your reservoir. Any pump will do. Chevy used it since the early 60s and dodge since at least the early 70s.”

That’s good to know. My reservoirs dented and when I tried to find the leak with UV dye it kinda looked like it’s leaking all over the place. So, I went with the can and all, but maybe next time!

 

[pbwcr]

Sag Id

Identify your Saginaw pump

http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/images/Instructions/pspsheet.pdf

From my archives

Canned ham style with removable Can See two nuts Usually cone with non o-ring high pressure connection and single return This kind with removable can also be adapted to the PCI remote can$$
Your Ford pully wont fit for a GM pump 5/8”vs ¾” press on shaft



Another style can


Dual return mod

 

[RonJones]

Great pics and attachment!

 

[bigmuddy]

Identify your Saginaw pump

http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/images/Instructions/pspsheet.pdf

From my archives

Canned ham style with removable Can See two nuts Usually cone with non o-ring high pressure connection and single return This kind with removable can also be adapted to the PCI remote can$$
Your Ford pully wont fit for a GM pump 5/8”vs ¾” press on shaft



Another style can


Dual return mod

How is the extra fitting to the housing being kept from leaking?

 

[pbwcr]

Uses a flat fiber gasket under the inside nut. No source since I lost the original link.
PaulW

 

[pbwcr]

I assume thread sealant would be good

 

[ksagis]

Source for return line part

Not sure if you were looking for the source for the Hydro Boost return to pump Line fitting. If so, here's a place who sells it:

https://www.performanceonline.com/hydro-boost-return-to-pump-line-kit/

Another option to avoid leaks from the clamp washer is welding on a bung. They are available from many places, I get a lot of my stuff from Mcmaster:

https://www.mcmaster.com/weld-bungs/

 

[RonJones]

Here’s the Econoline Cardone Reman PS Pump; sure looks like the one Chuck sold me in 2012. 3/4” press-on shaft, has a cone in the SAE fitting whereas Chuck’s didn’t - that one used a crush washer on both sides of the nut to seal the banjo bolt instead of an inverted flare. Thx, Todd Z!