Stonecrusher steering & Duff's forward shock mount?

[MnkyBiz]

All,

I was finishing the install of my fuel filler necks & installing the new steering wheel and generally playing around when I noticed something which worried me. If I turn all the way to the right, the Stonecrusher impacts the front shock mount on the passenger side before I get full rotation.

Has anyone else out there, currently running the dual front Duff package noticed this? Is the only fix to remove the front secondary shocks & brackets?

MnkyBiz

 

[Panama71]

I asked Duff about that when I was up there about 2 years ago.

They suggested grinding the front mount to clearance it. I am waiting to attach my front mounts until I have the new steering in so I can check the clearance.

 

[asabadin]

I had to torch mine when i got my steering. Oh well, it was a good exuse to buy and install mybilstein reservoir 7100's

 

[lars]

All,

I was finishing the install of my fuel filler necks & installing the new steering wheel and generally playing around when I noticed something which worried me. If I turn all the way to the right, the Stonecrusher impacts the front shock mount on the passenger side before I get full rotation.

Has anyone else out there, currently running the dual front Duff package noticed this? Is the only fix to remove the front secondary shocks & brackets?

MnkyBiz

Duff, Wild Horses, they are all pretty much the same- if you do a tie rod over conversion (any of them) it means removing or at least seriously notching the mounts welded to the C's to make room. My TRO impacted my front mounts big time, so out came the hot wrench and grinder. Which is when I switched to Bilsteins, which meant not needing dual shocks anymore.

 

[MnkyBiz]

Asabadin & Lars,

If I were to ditch the front dual, which Bilstein would you suggest I get? What are the pros & cons of each?

Thanks!

MnkyBiz

 

[77BroncoWag]

pics? mine looks like this

 

[lars]

Asabadin & Lars,

If I were to ditch the front dual, which Bilstein would you suggest I get? What are the pros & cons of each?

Thanks!

MnkyBiz

If you can afford it, first choice would be model 7100 Bilsteins. 12" stroke if you flex your suspension a lot, 10" if you don't. With 12" shocks you'll need to move the upper shock mounts because they are so long. You can buy short body 12" 7100s that will fit in the same space as a 10" shock, but they are resevoir shocks only so they are expensive. Which is the down side of the 7100s. Cost. Even the shrader valve shocks (no reservoir) are around $135 each. Check the mass buy section, there have been some deals. If you decide to go that route, make sure they are valved 360/80 (a rating for rebound and compression damping, respectively). Don't worry about what the numbers mean. Any less damping and they are too soft for a front single shock application. If not the 7100s then you can save some money going with the 5150s. Not user rebuildable but still a great shock.

The advantage of the Bilsteins is the progressive valving. Very compliant on small bumps yet still adequately damped so you aren't moving all over the place. On big hits they blow off so your fillings aren't rattled loose. Do a Bilstein search on this site, you'll be reading for hours. Plenty of people have tried them and liked them. They are good enough that you don't need dual shocks except maybe if you are desert racing. In which case you'd want coilovers anyway.

 

[Madgyver]

I ditched my front mounts when I did the TRO and installed Bilstiens. I had extra C-caps so the torch and grinder wasn't needed. I notice that it was going to be a problem and it would interfere so the changes were done all at the same time.

 

[supermottl]

I just hacked mine off, and am only currently running 1 shock up front. I can feel the difference, but it's not bad. I have the SC steering setup and it's not knuckle over.

 

[Buckin74]

If your wheel offset is close enough to hit on the front shock mounts-- try double shocking to the rear of the coils. Most people lately have gone this route, especially with the Tie Rod Over conversions. I run dual 70/30's. Work great for the street, work well for offroad runs and the shocks are affordable.

 

[asabadin]

Bilstein 7100 12inch short body reserviored

Asabadin & Lars,

If I were to ditch the front dual, which Bilstein would you suggest I get? What are the pros & cons of each?

Thanks!

MnkyBiz