Summit Racing Truck Headers vs Mustang Shorty Headers

[DanWheeler]

I'm about to order up a few parts from Summit for my 4R70W conversion. I've been reading up on the header situation and from what I can tell, WH and BC headers will work without question but are a little pricey. It sounds like Mustang shorty headers will work with some modifications.

it's really hard to tell from the pics, but I THINK these Summit Racing shorty truck headers just might work. My understanding is the problem with the Mustang shorty headers is that the drivers side collector points right into the frame rail as you can see in this pic of hedman mustand shorties. (drivers side header on the right)

Hedman Mustang Shorty Headers

compared to the Summit truck headers (driver's side header on the left)

Summit Racing Truck Headers

the collector seems to be pointed straight down or slightly in towards the block with the summit truck headers. Unfortunately I think it would point right at the clutch linkage on a manual transmission truck but I think it might work for an automatic.

The Summit truck headers are $160. So, unless someone can definitively tell me they wont work, i'm gonna sacrifice $160 and see if we can find some cheap headers that work on our Broncos.

 

[u14]

Your making this easy on me. I was just about to start researching this myself. But I have a 435.

 

[bigmuddy]

I don't beleive those will clear. However I am currently running these on my 5.0 with long arms, ZF tranny setup.

Hedmen headers 88400

Cost is:153.95 shipping is free but they will tack on a service charge.
Here is the link:http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HED-88400&N=700+115&autoview=sku

Ben

 

[bigmuddy]

Actually I am wrong. the mustang headers may be virtually the same as the ones I posted. Mine point straight back if memory serves correctly.

Ben

 

[DanWheeler]

Actually I am wrong. the mustang headers may be virtually the same as the ones I posted. Mine point straight back if memory serves correctly.

Ben

yep, the one's you linked to are the same as the ones in my picture. So i've got it completely backwards?

Those Hedman headers clear no problem? even with clutch linkage?

do you have any pics? This would be awesome if I could find a set of headers for $150 that are guaranteed to fit.

 

[DanWheeler]

Actually I am wrong. the mustang headers may be virtually the same as the ones I posted. Mine point straight back if memory serves correctly.

Ben

btw - what is it about the summit truck headers you dont think will clear? It wont clear the clutch linkage or the frame?

The summit truck headers look like they would conflict with the clutch linkage but I'm converting to an automatic so thats not a concern for me. The Hedman headers look like they would conflict with the frame rails to me.

 

[bigmuddy]

They might work fine. It looks to me that they tend to point more toward the passenger side frame than the Hedmen set and that is usually the issue.

I run a ZF which uses the hydraulic clutch but I don't belevie they would be an issue at all. They are short enough that they wouldnt hit the linkage and you could bend the pipe up, down or around to clear.


I just went and looked and I have about 2.5 to 3" of clearance between the header and the bellhousing on the passengerside. Easy removal of the starter as well. My only complaint is that they aren't coated but you can send them to Jet hot for coating if you need it.

Ben

 

[DanWheeler]

They might work fine. It looks to me that they tend to point more toward the passenger side frame than the Hedmen set and that is usually the issue.

I run a ZF which uses the hydraulic clutch but I don't belevie they would be an issue at all. They are short enough that they wouldnt hit the linkage and you could bend the pipe up, down or around to clear.


I just went and looked and I have about 2.5 to 3" of clearance between the header and the bellhousing on the passengerside. Easy removal of the starter as well. My only complaint is that they aren't coated but you can send them to Jet hot for coating if you need it.

Ben

ok, well if you can confirm that those hedman headers work no problem then i guess there's no sense in experimenting with the summit truck headers. I will order up a set of the hedman's. Thanks much for the info.

 

[bigmuddy]

I am not running the auto that you are, but I can't think of any reason they wouldn't work either. Let me know how well they fit afterwards, I think you will be pleased.

Ben

 

[bigmuddy]

By the way, I run an EFI motor and the O2 bungs are welded in right after the collector and its works fine.

Ben

 

[u14]

headers

How did the headers turn out?

 

[DanWheeler]

haven't quite gotten to the swap yet. They do look like they are going to fit. I'll report back here when I find out which will be in a month or two.

 

[theshadow]

my mustang shorties ran directly into the clutch linkage

 

[Amac70]

The problem with the mustang shortys is not the drivers side its the passanger side drops right on top of the frame rail. the driverside dumps right into clutch linkage.