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Thread Name change > Clifford... Big Red Bronco

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Don't know if when you went into debt at WH, spring plates was one of your purchases, but Tom's sells the heavy duty plates, and the hole for the spring pin nut is slotted about 3" for adjustability, instead of drilling new holes.

Thanks for sharing the info about Tom's spring plates, I due tend to look at everyone's parts, their pricing, and now shipping costs, trying to make that informed purchase....
As with anything, the cost of things continues to go up. I have been running spreadsheets from my previous builds, so I have cost info, part #'s and dates of purchases. I was buying parts in the beginning of 2022 for my last project "Betty White" a Wimbledon white 70. Some things have gone up a few dollars and others are up $20-$30 or more. I say going into Debt at WH's jokingly, in debt only until the CC bill shows up. But all of us see the price increases that have occurred since Covid hit.
Yes, I did buy the Extreme U-bolt kit from WH's and I have a drill press, with the appropriate sized drill bit to make the additional hole myself. I'm a lot cheaper and there is that satisfaction factor doing things myself.
We do plan to stop at Tom's Rock and Roll event in June on our way to see our oldest kid in the Portland area, and I have a shopping list started.
That no shipping and no sales tax definitely helps out. ;)
 
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Bedliner doesn't seem to be a very good insulator or noise damper. It does do both things, just not nearly as well as other products. The inside of the Wagon was lined with something that's not very thick and is going to be a mess to remove. It's not a great data point, most of my experience and observation is from the YJ from Hell which was Rhino-Lined. If the liner would adhere to something like LizardSkin I'd be really tempted to apply their thermal and noise products first, then apply the liner over them.

Before I did any of that I'd make sure that anything that needed to be welded to the underside had been done. Things like brackets for heat shields, etc. One of the YJ from Hell's most basic failings was that the floors up front got really hot. Hotter than they should given the air gap that existed. The Rhino-Liner was nearly useless for insulating against the exhaust heat. Had we more time I'd have been adding heat shields, but with the owner's passing his widow needed it together enough to be sold.

Agreed, Bed liner is its own nightmare.
It works great in a truck bed, but the immediate thought seems to be that you are hiding something by applying BL.
And everything needs to thought out and put into place before one applies it. The floor will still get warm from the exhaust unless there are heat shields.
I welded up so many holes in the 67 pictured above, that the Raptor liner smoothed things out so to speak.
In Clifford's case, I could just prime and paint just that section of the floor where the sheet metal pitting is and call it good. Or shoot just a little liner...
 
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Thanks for sharing the info about Tom's spring plates, I due tend to look at everyone's parts, their pricing, and now shipping costs, trying to make that informed purchase....
As with anything, the cost of things continues to go up. I have been running spreadsheets from my previous builds, so I have cost info, part #'s and dates of purchases. I was buying parts in the beginning of 2022 for my last project "Betty White" a Wimbledon white 70. Some things have gone up a few dollars and others are up $20-$30 or more. I say going into Debt at WH's jokingly, in debt only until the CC bill shows up. But all of us see the price increases that have occurred since Covid hit.
Yes, I did buy the Extreme U-bolt kit from WH's and I have a drill press, with the appropriate sized drill bit to make the additional hole myself. I'm a lot cheaper and there is that satisfaction factor doing things myself.
We do plan to stop at Tom's Rock and Roll event in June on our way to see our oldest kid in the Portland area, and I have a shopping list started.
That no shipping and no sales tax definitely helps out. ;)

I too price shop, but shipping is always the killer for me being in the SE...examples: ordered a 2.5" suspension kit from Tom's, because the shipping was only $99 flat rated, even though the kit was a little more expensive than the next competitors kit, but just the opposite on a disc brake kit, I ordered both the same day.
I bet your spread sheet has some interesting data. Wish I had thought to do that when I started building broncos back in the late 90's.
 
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