Traction Bar options/fit

[walker_creek]

Hey all,

So after several years of the Bronco sitting in the barn with a bad transfer case bearing, I finally got it moved to the shop to get it back into shape.

I put a 351W Ford Racing crate engine in it the last time I refreshed it, and w/ the 4.88 and Detroit it destroys rear u-joints. While I have it in the shop I want to add an axle wrap control of some kind. I found some OLD threads on here, but would appreciate some new opinions.

I have a WH 3.5" lift w/ double shocks all around. That kind of makes me lean towards a WH wrap trap, but my welding abilities are kind of rusty at this point. I really like the looks and bolt-on install of the Duff Torque Tamer.

I have a 3.5" WH suspension lift, 2" body lift, 351W and NV3500. I am going to add a NW Fabworks BlackBox-I this time around. (that's been sitting in my shop for 2-3 years) Only running 33" tires now, but this refresh is going to switch to 35's.

Easy is a plus. It's not that I can't take on the complicated, but work and work and half the American workforce sitting at home doesn't give me much time to get real involved in this project.

All input appreciated!

 

[bronconut73]

I liked the simplicity of the Wrap Trap. Install/welding was easier than I thought it would be.
It isn't perfect....nothing in life is.
It definitely did not hinder articulation and made street light take-offs pretty fun too.
Not going to bash it. Love WH.
But I switched to a TorqueTamer from Duffs.
Does things a little differently. The design would seem to indicate that it's going to ride a little better. Haven't installed it yet.

 

[nvrstuk]

Future plans make a huge difference in longevity. What forces are going to be exerted on your rig?

I built something almost identical to what the Wrap Trap is now- but I did it back in the '90's. I ate the poly bushings since I use my rig a lot. Just like I ate track bar bushings annually. Don't beat it, but use it a lot.

What I'm saying is if you can determine that you can weld properly, spread the load out &over the top of the housing some the WrapTrap will work fine for 90% of us. Housings tear due to the stress of the mounting of the Wrap Trap.

Either works fine as a simple anti wrap bar.

I built a 3 point mount on my 9" that worked for decades till I snapped the DOM tubing on the upper support meaning anything can break.

I finally went 4 link due to constant breakage of rear springs and rear shackles.

Hope whatever you get works great for you.

 

[JWMcCrary]

Duffs Torque Tamer, I have it on 2 broncos and it absolutely works. Not saying others don't but I can speak from experience that I've bent and broke a lot of parts and a Ujoint has never been one of them.

 

[walker_creek]

Thanks for the input all!! I'm going to order the Duff. I like the bolt in idea so I don't have to be married to it forever if things change.

Again...really appreciate the input.

 

[walker_creek]

I finally finished getting the Bronco back together this spring with the Torque Tamer installed. It seems to work well with the limited hours I've put on it. Haven't destroyed any more u-joints, so it must be working!

I installed this with the Duff bolt on bracket instead of welding tabs on the axle. The washers that came with the kit sucked themselves into the holes on the bracket. Eventually everything loosened up and the differential gasket failed. I have everything apart and have ordered some grade 8 extra thick washers to replace the standard washers that came with the kit. Duff sent a Lubelocker differential gasket with the kit that isn't supposed to need RTV. I used RTV sealant anyway. I have another Lubelocker gasket and am getting ready to put all this back together.

Should I use RTV sealant again, or would I be better off letting the gasket do it's job by itself?

Any other suggestions? I think I remember seeing on here when I was shopping for the Torque Tamer somebody else had this issue.

 

[nvrstuk]

No rtv!!

 

[73azbronco]

Duffs Torque Tamer, I have it on 2 broncos and it absolutely works. Not saying others don't but I can speak from experience that I've bent and broke a lot of parts and a Ujoint has never been one of them.

Hey, I have a knock off of that Duff, do you have torque steer with it? As in, floor it, and it tends to turn in a direction other than intended. Never really thought about it until I took it off to lower suspension. With it off, zero torque steering.....

 

[nvrstuk]

Hey, I have a knock off of that Duff, do you have torque steer with it? As in, floor it, and it tends to turn in a direction other than intended. Never really thought about it until I took it off to lower suspension. With it off, zero torque steering.....

When you changed/lowered the suspension did you notice that your drag link & track bar are now at much different angles than the were before?? Probably not.

Unless you changed the mounting brkts and lengths of both of those to match the angles you had BEFORE you dropped the suspension that is why your suspension and torque steer are much improved over what you had before.

You corrected the angles thst caused the torque steer from the previous suspension setup-lowering it fixed your issue not removing the Torque Tamer!!!

 

[walker_creek]

Thanks! I'll put it together without the RTV this time.

No torque steer. Actually can't tell the Torque Tamer is even there except for my u-joint now no longer explodes on a regular basis.

 

[73azbronco]

When you changed/lowered the suspension did you notice that your drag link & track bar are now at much different angles than the were before?? Probably not.

Unless you changed the mounting brkts and lengths of both of those to match the angles you had BEFORE you dropped the suspension that is why your suspension and torque steer are much improved over what you had before.

You corrected the angles thst caused the torque steer from the previous suspension setup-lowering it fixed your issue not removing the Torque Tamer!!!

Why yes I noticed, I removed bar before changing springs. It did move 2 inches lower, I had to have a guy reweld the bar, have yet to try it. I noticed no torque steer now I have a lower suspension and, no torque bar. So question is did lower springs or no torq bar cause this? I’ll put bar back on when I get time to fix front axle.

 

[73azbronco]

Thanks! I'll put it together without the RTV this time.

No torque steer. Actually can't tell the Torque Tamer is even there except for my u-joint now no longer explodes on a regular basis.

Thanks.

 

[nvrstuk]

Why yes I noticed, I removed bar before changing springs. It did move 2 inches lower, I had to have a guy reweld the bar, have yet to try it. I noticed no torque steer now I have a lower suspension and, no torque bar. So question is did lower springs or no torq bar cause this? I’ll put bar back on when I get time to fix front axle.

It's not the lowered springs. It's what the "lowered springs" did for your strg geometry-it fixed your torque steer.

 

[73azbronco]

It's not the lowered springs. It's what the "lowered springs" did for your strg geometry-it fixed your torque steer.

Agree.