Turn and Hazard Questions, Solved, Thanks Viperwolf

[DonH]

This question is directed at Viperwolf1 but others can chime in.
When I got my 68 Project the wiring was a mess and I had to hotwire and jumpstart it to get it to run and I do not know if the turn and hazard switches worked. The EB came with a 12 circuit Kwikwire harness and I have to go with it. To complicate or simplify the project I am installing a new dash and AutoMeter gauges including a speedometer and tach. I have the wire harness installed and everything works except the turn signals. I wired the turn switch as the info sent to me from Viperwolf. I get 12v that is switched at the columm from left to right but there are no lights lit front or back. I sent Kwikwire an email and they said "That circuit requires a load for it to work". This harness leans heavely to the GM side for the install but show a few Ford drawings but nothing of Ford steering columm. Kwikwire support seems a little short.
How do I trouble shoot this thing to see even if the switch works? If I have to get a new turn switch can I adapt the newer type with the hazard built in?
How does the hazard switch work is it just a double pole double thro switch? Mine fell apart when I removed it from the dash. No luck at NAPA.
I am wondering if I should just get a aftermarket turn switch.
Thanks for any help.
Don

 

[Viperwolf1]

Here are the '73 column wire colors and functions.

Blue=12v from turn flasher to turn switch, circuit #44
white-blue=right front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #2
green=right rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #282
green-white=left front turn and indicator lamp, circuit #3
yellow-black=left rear brake and turn lamp, circuit #283
red-black=12v brake switch to turn signal switch, circuit #810
yellow=12v headlight switch to horn switch, circuit #460
blue-yellow=horn switch to horn, circuit #482

Here are the hazard switch wires:
red-white=12v from fuse panel to hazard flasher, circuit #383
white-red=12v from hazard flasher to hazard switch, circuit #385
white-blue=hazard flasher to body connector (ties to RF turn light terminal), circuit #2A
green-white=hazard flasher to body connector (ties to LF turn light terminal), circuit #3A
red-black=hazard flasher to column connector (ties to brake switch output), circuit #810A

The hazard switch only connects all of it's connections together when on. That puts hazard flasher power to all 4 turn lights. When off all connections are isolated from each other. Easy to rig even without a correct harness.

For the turn signals I would use an ohmmeter and trace the continuity from the blue (turn flasher) and red-black (brake) wires to the front and rear light wires. Keep in mind you need to use the turn switch to connect to the various light wires.

 

[DonH]

Thats good info Viperwolf1. I just have to put on the thinking cap and dive a little deeper into this thing. So far I have not blown any fuses.I have to figure out why I am not putting a load on the flashers. I will make up a test bulb to do just that.
I am still considering getting a later model turn switch thast has the hazard switch built in.
Don

 

[Viperwolf1]

I am still considering getting a later model turn switch thast has the hazard switch built in.
Don

I don't know if that will work but it might if the mounting pattern is the same on the switches.

 

[DonH]

Kwikwire sent me a drawing of the whole installed setup and it shows hooking the steering columm wires to a GM fitting. There is no details about the circuit. I also asked for the circuit drawing of the fuse block. The flashers for both turn and hazard are on the fuse block. The drawing just shows wires going into the fuse block. They told me there has to be aload on the circuit to work. I will take some readings tomorrow to see if my turn switch is OK. Iwould think there should be 12v at the wires coming from the flasher. I never thought to check the ohms to ground. Don

 

[DonH]

Thanks Viperwolf for giving me enough information to get a understang of my problem. I checked my turn switch with a ohm meter and it was working as it should. I noted on your drawing the blue wire required a pulsed 12v supply. I removed the two wire flasher and its connecting wires from the old harness, connected one end to the blue wire and the other end to a 12v sourse and the turn signals worked perfectly. Thank You
I also now how the hazard switch works and how to get that sesystem to work.

Somtimes you just need someone to send you in the right direction and you did that. Thank You Thank You Thank You and have a nice 4th.