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Undercarriage detail?

gray gables

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What does everyone go by when restoring there ride? According to my sales brochure for my 67 it's 2 different details, just curious that's all.
 

TwoDalesDad

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Up untill My bronco ended up in the Shop....I liked to detail mine with Mud, leave brush sticking out places...even left some skin more than once....lol
 

trailerjack

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Central Texas
what would you guys do if you weren't going to frame off? I want to detail mine (with the body on, and it doesnt have to look incredible or anything. Just want it to look fresh.
 

nickgp

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Without doing frame off you are going to be on your back using degreaser, scapers, wire brushes etc. If you have a lift its alot easier. Once cleaned up,remove anything and everything you can(wiring, brakelines,exhuast,drivelines etc). Spray Can undercoating for the sheetmetal and a decent semi gloss or gloss black for the frame and suspension should clean it up nicely. When you do one like this, less is more. What Im saying is dont go crazy with wierd colors.
 

u10072

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If not doing a frame off--I put on a pair of welding gloves, a shirt and jacket, jeans, ear/eye protection and just start wire wheeling the heck out of everything. Degreasers absolutely laugh at the heavy "grease-cake". When Ive literally spent an entire weekend of wire wheeling and literally looking like a 1930's coal-miner, After the wire wheeling fun, I spray down with the purple cleaner-- I call it purple death because it makes you cough something terrible, and then power wash-- I do the purple death treatment about 3 times. If you are thinking about doing the body mounts this is a great time to undo the body and lift it up from the frame 6" or so which allows pretty good top of the frame access. If you take the tires off and support the frame and just let the axles hang you can just get to everything-- it requires lots of discomfort, being a contortionist in between the frame, and about 10 wire wheels from Harbor Freight at $5 each. Its a terrible ordeal of a weekend and you get totally filthy but the pay off in the quality of the build goes up tremendously.
 

bronconut73

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oven cleaner works miracles

Yes.
I used Jeffries Industrial Oven Cleaner in gallon jugs. It is glow in the dark yellow and definitely requires some PPE if on your back.under the eb.
Mine didn't have much rust because it had a 30+ year old coating of Ziebart or something similar by a company called Rusty Acres. It stopped the rust but eventually started coming off and looked like hell but the oven cleaner helped to get it and the other built up gunk off.
 

needabronco

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Just so you know I've seen all sorts of rust gremlins beneath bed liner under vehicles. Pinholes can develop letting water in under the liner and it'll rust from within and you won't know until its too late. I prefer POR15 or paint myself.

AND its only 6 bolts to remove a body to do it right!
 

Unknown

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I'm going frame on resto and doing body color - little by little though. Degreaser, scrapers, wire wheeler and plenty of work is all it takes.
 

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NGABronco

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N. GA now South Carolina
I was under the impression that the underside of new EB's was a red oxide primer or some type of bedliner/undercoating as an option???

My lil orange rig is body color (because the painter would not listen to me), body off frame, "Stretch" is bedlinered, body off frame (because I did it).
 

POOH BEAR

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Lakeland,La.
Has anyone tried to bead/sandblast the bottom while still on frame with one of the small cheap harbor freight style blast pots? I'm sure it would be a mess,but it may cut the work in half.
 
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gray gables

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I did mine with a sandblaster while the body was on. But it was up on jack stands, the tires were off, the shocks were off, the engine and trans were out. I t was a pia and was dirty, took me 3 days I think to get it cleaned, but worth it.
 

bearskinner

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a couple years ago when I pulled the trans and T case, I got a wire wheel on a grinder and went to town. I got 1" body bushings, so I cut the original stockers out, put a block of wood in place and started cleaning. Once the oil and grease was removed, the wire wheel removed everything. I got a quart of rust-oleum metal primer for the sheet metal, and did all the housings, radius arms etc with POR15. Black and brown rust-oleum covered the underside, and it comes clean with a hose now, as long as you keep up on it. Its easy to touch up anything with a little paint if you scratch it all up. I did the same to the interior floor, under the dyna mat to keep it clean and painted.
 

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POOH BEAR

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Nice job bearskinner.... I have a car lift ,so I'm thinking once I pull the engine I can lift it up high and get under it and go to work. I know it's gonna be a little messy and not really as thorough as a full frame off job,But would save me a lot of work since I do most of my work at night and by myself. The life of a night worker always puts you on a different schedule than your friends/ help.plus with hunting season fast approaching I'm thinking noones gonna want to spend the weekend helping out.
 

bearskinner

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if you unbolt the body mounts, you can get to 95% of the frame and underside of the floor to clean and paint. A cup style wire wheel on a 4 1/2" grinder works great, but MAKE SURE you wear goggles and heavy gloves. the crud and wire from the wheel will fly all over.
 

surfer-b

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You could remove the body, flip it over, clean all the crud off, reinstall and come out with less time, a better job and a lot cleaner on yourself than trying to leave the body on. I have done both ways and will not leave the body on and try to really clean one. If you are just cleaning a particular area go for it, otherwise its not worth the time and mess it makes compared to removing it. That is my exper. but you may prefer other ways
 
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