Wild Horses Drag Link Roll

[JCBombardier]

I recently installed the Wild Horses Drag Link and Tie Rod setup. I feel like I’m getting too much roll on the Drag Link when the steering is cycling side to side. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong? Here’s a quick video showing the issue:

https://youtu.be/Jof8DH5iRo4

Thanks!


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[casadejohnson]

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/R1768.html

Check out this link. It’s just for that problem. That’s what I got for mine. I assume it would work on the wild horses setup as well


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[DirtDonk]

Well that is interesting. You can always expect a little bit of roll from most setups, but that does seem to be more than normal to me. And what we try to avoid actually, by having you orient the centerlink with that 60° angle that you appear to have.

Just to check, all the adjusting sleeve clamps are good and tight, correct?
How much lift and are you using drop brackets? The lower the angle, the lower the amount of roll (usually) should be expected.
Your angles actually look pretty good from here, but I wanted to be sure.

Unfortunately Ruff-Stuff's "The Cure" is not made for, and may not even fit, our setup. It's specifically for the "GM 1-ton" linkage, and still only works properly with certain brands of rod ends because the shape changes between some brands.
There is still a possibility that it could work with our linkage, but trying it would be an experiment. Not sure if anyone has tried it yet.
It does work as advertised on the GM stuff though. Never going to get rid of the roll on the GM setups 100%, but it takes a big bite out of it.

Back to yours JC, see if rotating the centerlink up a little more makes any difference at all. I'm not sure it will, but at this point it's likely worth a few minutes of your time to give it a try.

Thanks. Sorry about the extra trouble you're going to.

Paul

 

[DirtDonk]

I think I see what's going on here.
As an experiment, remove the steering stabilizer at least temporarily. It appears to be mounted in such a way as to be too long.
Notice when you turn all the way to the right the shock bottoms out and pushes the bushings and upper bracket.

Shoot another pair of videos highlighting more the area around the pitman arm and stabilizer shock.
Then one with the shock removed and see what happens.

As I keep looking at it, I don't know how much of anything is being imparted into the linkage by the shock, but it's not quite right yet.

Good luck.

Paul

 

[Hinmaton]

Looks like the drag link is rotating around the tie rod end threads. Specifically on the passenger side. Best way to solve this is finding a helper to turn the steering wheel while you put you hands and eyes on the connections.
I get my kids to help.

Hinmaton

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[dholder]

I had this and I slightly twisted both tie rod ends, if I remember correctly, toward the rear of the truck. Or maybe it was one toward the rear and one toward the front. Anyway, it will prevent the roll.

 

[JCBombardier]

Thanks for everyone’s input. Just for reference, the suspension is stock with no drop brackets on any linkage.

I did a lot of searching around but can’t find any reports of people using “The Cure” on this particular setup. Has anyone tried it?

Paul, good catch on the steering stabilizer binding. I’ll remove and see if that helps. Any idea what the shock body length should be?

I’ll try rotating the tie rod ends opposite directions as well to hopefully “lock” the drag link in place. Never seen it done that way before though.




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[DirtDonk]

Sorry, I used to remember, but would have to look it up. However, it may not be that the shock is too long, as your frame mounted bracket looks like a non-stock unit. Could be either that's positioned incorrectly, or the upper mount over at the draglink may be off a bit.
Frankly, I think most people are leaving their shocks off. However it is set up so that you can retain it, so make sure that the stabilizer bracket on the draglink has the u-bolts straddling the welded on tab.
Almost looks as if the upper bracket is too far toward the pitman arm, but that would have the opposite effect of what we're seeing. Some things to verify then.
And maybe someone here has a shot of their original brackets in position?

This is what the stock ones look like: Stabilizer Shock Mounting Brackets so yours don't look too far off dimensionally at least.

Paul

 

[casadejohnson]

I think Paul is on the right track. I looked at that video again and the cure from Ruffstuff is really more for the roll at the drag link connection. I’ll be interested to see if removing the stabilizer helps your issue.



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