Vent window felt

[mkaenel]

Does anyone know how to remove this

http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-14332_vent_window_felt__each_66-77.htm

part from the vent window frame?

Thanks,

Matt

 

[KDML]

I just changed mine, it pulled right out of the vent window. The lower part sticks out of the vent window, so I tapped gently with a rubber mallet until it started to come out. Pulled out the rest of the way by hand.

 

[yak67]

I just did mine as well, I believe it has some rivets that need to be drilled out, then the new ones should have the new rivets included with it.

 

[1jeffm]

I did both off mine over the summer. There wasn't any rivets in mine. The passenger side came right out, but the driver's side had to beat out. It was wedged in there pretty good

 

[mkaenel]

I had to beat both of them out... but they are out.

Now I have another question. Does anyone know of a good way to remove the black frame from around the vent window? I have new glass coming and I have to reuse this part.

Thanks,

Matt

 

[BoltBuster]

I guess it depends what year you have, the 67' has a removeable window frame which made it very easy.

 

[mkaenel]

It is a 72 and it has to be removed on one window because the pin that goes into the frame is broken and needs to be replaced.

I guess it depends what year you have, the 67' has a removeable window frame which made it very easy.

 

[Tuck]

I assume you're talking about the actual vent window frame. You'll definitely want a copy of the obscenity encyclopedia before you start. It'll take every single word for you to get throught the job. I also recommend suicide prevention counseling.

You'll have to take the entire vent window frame out, which means you'll have to remove enough felt from the window itself to get it out. This is obviously the best time to replace all of it--that part is easy. You'll have to tilt the top of the vent aft to remove it. There are screws in the door under the vent latch, on the upper vent frame, and on the front of it (four total, I think). None of the top 3 will want to go back in when you're done. I also had one shear off in the top...oh joy.

I pried the upper part of the frame (short side) away from the glass with a screwdriver, then worked my way around. It wasn't easy, and was the hardest part of the job. You'll also have to deal with ruining the black seal that goes between the glass and frame. I didn't find anything that even came close, so I ended up making do. I also replaced all of the other vent seals. Let me know if you have anymore questions or can further brighten your day.

 

[mkaenel]

The vent window is completely out so I should just take my time (sitting on the couch with a screw drive and a case of beer) and work it loose? Starting from the top.

What did you use for a new seal between the metal gasket and window?

Maybe I will just do the one that is broken and leave the other one alone.

Thanks,

Matt

I assume you're talking about the actual vent window frame. You'll definitely want a copy of the obscenity encyclopedia before you start. It'll take every single word for you to get throught the job. I also recommend suicide prevention counseling.

You'll have to take the entire vent window frame out, which means you'll have to remove enough felt from the window itself to get it out. This is obviously the best time to replace all of it--that part is easy. You'll have to tilt the top of the vent aft to remove it. There are screws in the door under the vent latch, on the upper vent frame, and on the front of it (four total, I think). None of the top 3 will want to go back in when you're done. I also had one shear off in the top...oh joy.

I pried the upper part of the frame (short side) away from the glass with a screwdriver, then worked my way around. It wasn't easy, and was the hardest part of the job. You'll also have to deal with ruining the black seal that goes between the glass and frame. I didn't find anything that even came close, so I ended up making do. I also replaced all of the other vent seals. Let me know if you have anymore questions or can further brighten your day.

 

[SeaBiscuit68]

There's stuff made by 3m that I don't remember the name of. It's used by the professionals (auto glass folks) for just this. I've witnessed this painful operation and just wanted to say I'll cross my fingers for you in hopes the glass doesn't break. Have you considered handing it to the pros? Maybe get a quote just for giggles.

 

[Tuck]

I think now I'd get a quote just to see too, and one case of beer isn't enough. You'll need one before, one during, and a couple while you're in recovery.

The problem is that the glass is a press fit with the seal, and it's been in there a long time. I couldn't get it to budge with vice grips AND prying for the longest time. It's also a problem when it goes back together. If you don't get a good press fit, the top and bottom will want to bend out away from the glass. This will be magnified after you get done with the screwdriver.

I didn't find any special 3M stuff when I put mine back together. I used some old rubber that I had, cut it to fit, and glued the whole thing together with black window adhesive/sealant. You'll have to keep the thing clamped to keep the frame on the glass right because it will want to separate like I said in the last paragraph.

 

[mkaenel]

So you are saying as well as Seabiscuit that an automotive glass shop will do it?

I am more than happy to pay someone for a good job that I frankly don't want to deal with.

Thanks,

Matt

I think now I'd get a quote just to see too, and one case of beer isn't enough. You'll need one before, one during, and a couple while you're in recovery.

The problem is that the glass is a press fit with the seal, and it's been in there a long time. I couldn't get it to budge with vice grips AND prying for the longest time. It's also a problem when it goes back together. If you don't get a good press fit, the top and bottom will want to bend out away from the glass. This will be magnified after you get done with the screwdriver.

I didn't find any special 3M stuff when I put mine back together. I used some old rubber that I had, cut it to fit, and glued the whole thing together with black window adhesive/sealant. You'll have to keep the thing clamped to keep the frame on the glass right because it will want to separate like I said in the last paragraph.

 

[Tuck]

Frankly, I'm not sure, but I'd ask. This really isn't a fun job, and the worst they can say is no.

 

[tim70]

I just did both of mine. I started prying the top of the frame from the glass using a small screwdriver. Once I got that sort of loose, I switched to the longer bottom part of the frame and pried that loose. And then kept alternating prying both ends. When enough room was made between the glass and the frame, I would block it with small pieces of wood. The frame was slightly spread out at the two curves and needed to be carefully bent back so the glass would fit like it should. Just take your time and go slow.

 

[mkaenel]

Tim,

Sounds like you have a lot of patience... what did you use to reattach the frame to the new window?

Matt

I just did both of mine. I started prying the top of the frame from the glass using a small screwdriver. Once I got that sort of loose, I switched to the longer bottom part of the frame and pried that loose. And then kept alternating prying both ends. When enough room was made between the glass and the frame, I would block it with small pieces of wood. The frame was slightly spread out at the two curves and needed to be carefully bent back so the glass would fit like it should. Just take your time and go slow.

 

[mkaenel]

I had an idea... I just threw it in the oven under low heat (my wife just got reallly pissed) to try and soften up the 35 plus year old cement holding the frame to the window. I will post what happens.

Matt

 

[mkaenel]

Helped but didn't work... I am off to the "needs parts" forum to find a replacement.

Thanks for all the tips.

Matt

 

[SeaBiscuit68]

So you are saying as well as Seabiscuit that an automotive glass shop will do it?

I am more than happy to pay someone for a good job that I frankly don't want to deal with.

Thanks,

Matt

Uh yeah, that's what they do.

 

[yak67]

I must be thinking of the wrong part.....I know there were rivets somewhere?:?

 

[Tuck]

I must be thinking of the wrong part.....I know there were rivets somewhere?:?

I just looked at mine. The rubber at the back of the vent window is riveted in, but I can't remember if I did it or it came that way. I want to say it came that way. I've tried hard to wipe this entire experience from my memory.