LS swap vs Coyote swap Cost

[jba6555]

I know there is a certain stigma against LS swapping a Bronco. I am not even all that sure I would consider doing it. But last night, as I was trying to fall asleep, I was wondering what the average cost to swap an LS into a Bronco is compared to the average cost to swap a Coyote into a Bronco. It was an intriguing enough question for me to wake up and ask you guys.

 

[dhendriksen]

The Coyote includes a lot of complexities around electrical, computer, etc… A new (you can get takeoffs) Coyote setup is $30k+. Lots more options for LS.

That said, I wouldn’t do either. I’m just finishing up my restoration and left the stock 302. Even left the carb on it. I didn’t want a restomod though - just a restored one.

 

[Yeller]

Last LS swap I did was $5500, which includes the price of getting the transmission rebuilt and doing all the work myself except the computer flash.

 

[ared77]

Those that know me know I'm "Keep a Ford in a Ford"

But I appreciate the question. If there is a good answer I'd be curious and part of the reason would be to get aftermarket active in bringing that difference down. And from what little I know about this I believe I'm right in saying the cost is coming down all the time.

 

[ford man]

You need more rest! Don't even consider putting a Chevy heart in that ford! An idle mine is the devils work shop.

 

[fatboy]

@Yeller has your answer.

 

[SteveL]

Why not a nice 351w. It drops right in for the most part.

 

[ared77]

"@Yeller has your answer."

Well half of it at least.

If the average cost to LS swap is $5500, what's the average Coyote swap cost ?

 

[1969]

The nice thing about the LS engines imo is fuel injection is incredibly easy. You can buy a nice standalone system for pretty cheap. A lot cheaper than a Coyote that’s for sure.

 

[ntsqd]

The 5.3L & 4L65E going in my Wagon project cost me $2700 delivered. I've another couple hundred in flashing the PCM to remove the nanny and body functions, but that includes the guy tuning it once running so that the shift points are correct, etc. I'll have some more money in getting the trans configured with a 4WD output, but that's on me as I could have gotten a 4WD version for my source had I not switched what the combo is going in. Origianlly it was going in my '73 SBSS Chevy C10, but the TBI 350 in the Wagon runs so good that I'm going to move it to the '73 instead.

Nothing wrong with the stock engine management on an LS engine IF you're not going to lean on it hard. For a stock or nearly stock engine I highly doubt that anything aftermarket will be as good. I'll guess that GM put 1000's of man-hours into testing and tuning that system. That is not something easily duplicated at home with an aftermarket ECM/PCM.

If you're going to boost it, NOx it, or seriously modify it's internals, then I doubt that the OEM PCM is the ideal tool.

 

[Broncobowsher]

LS is the low buck option. For install and the final value in the end.
I'll argue that a boring stock 302 will have more value than a junkyard swapped LS, even if the LS runs better.

 

[fordguy]

The 5.3L & 4L65E going in my Wagon project cost me $2700 delivered. I've another couple hundred in flashing the PCM to remove the nanny and body functions, but that includes the guy tuning it once running so that the shift points are correct, etc. I'll have some more money in getting the trans configured with a 4WD output, but that's on me as I could have gotten a 4WD version for my source had I not switched what the combo is going in. Origianlly it was going in my '73 SBSS Chevy C10, but the TBI 350 in the Wagon runs so good that I'm going to move it to the '73 instead.

Nothing wrong with the stock engine management on an LS engine IF you're not going to lean on it hard. For a stock or nearly stock engine I highly doubt that anything aftermarket will be as good. I'll guess that GM put 1000's of man-hours into testing and tuning that system. That is not something easily duplicated at home with an aftermarket ECM/PCM.

If you're going to boost it, NOx it, or seriously modify it's internals, then I doubt that the OEM PCM is the ideal tool.

I will take my explorer/4r70w with factory EFI with harness by Garry all day every day over an LS. If I had a Chevy I would do LS. Putting the 5.0 explorer in is the best over all swap, all
Things considered. Now if I carb the 5.0, the price comes way down. We just finished one with a C4 for under 3k. But you do you, don’t have a problem with LS just not in blue oval stuff. I am not ranting, just stating what I think. Don’t want y’all to think over excited about it lol. You heard of the heartbeat, I am all about hoof beat.

 

[Yeller]

As a disclaimer my last LS swap was not in a bronco

 

[Tricky Dick]

Also consider the non-monetary cost: loss of friends, kicked out of the club, your dog won't look you in the eye anymore.

 

[Jakedog]

Why not a nice 351w. It drops right in for the most part.

Loved my 351W in my 75. I ran a 2 barrel holley 500 with an automatic.
Great low end torque.

 

[powers4680]

The funny thing is people complain about the ls swap but the new bronco has basically a gm transmission in it.


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[ared77]

Doesn't matter. "basically a gm transmission" isn't a GM part...and even if it was if Ford put it in that's fine.

If you are a "car collector" who has multiple brands that's ok and I can see why you wouldn't mind mixing engines, etc. But I'm a Ford guy and can't tell you the number of times when I've walked up to some car/truck at a show and seen a Chevy engine in it and I just keep walking.

 

[Scoop]

The funny thing is people complain about the ls swap but the new bronco has basically a gm transmission in it.


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Jointly developed by GM and Ford. I'm going to tell my B-I-L his new Caddy Blackwing has a Ford transmission!

 

[Tricky Dick]

The funny thing is people complain about the ls swap but the new bronco has basically a gm transmission in it.


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Not mine, I have a Chinese pile of doodoo.

Oh wait, is that better or worse than GM?

 

[OX1]

The funny thing is people complain about the ls swap but the new bronco has basically a gm transmission in it.


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Really?

This new 10-speed rear-drive transmission is the result of collaboration between Ford and General Motors, although Ford had the engineering lead on it.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15377492/ford-10-speed-automatic-transmission/

Even the newer 10R60 was supposedly Ford led in design.