Turn Signal Intermittent "Super" Cancel

[jimmyv65]

Intermittently, when turning right, my turn signals will "super cancel" all the way over to a left turn signal. It only does it on a right turn. The column is a 1974 column and everything in it is new. The turn sig unit is a dennis carpenter aftermarket. My wheel is on a grant adapter. I have the two pins for the canceling.

As mentioned, it works fine on left turns, and only has the issue occasionally on a right turn.

I am wondering if anyone else has this issue and knows of a fix.

Thanks!

 

[mrdrnac]

Its the roll pins more than likely. Sometimes you have to bend them in some so they don't contact the switch so hard. I've never had very good luck with the pins they tend to break off the canceling arms, not good. I made the stock canceling cam work on the back of my Grant adapter, it works much better.

 

[jimmyv65]

Its the roll pins more than likely. Sometimes you have to bend them in some so they don't contact the switch so hard. I've never had very good luck with the pins they tend to break off the canceling arms, not good. I made the stock canceling cam work on the back of my Grant adapter, it works much better.

Thanks for the info!

 

[gr8scott]

I made the stock canceling cam work on the back of my Grant adapter, it works much better.

Not a Grant adapter, but you get the idea.

 

[jimmyv65]

Not a Grant adapter, but you get the idea.

Thanks! The picture helps. Did you just spread the stock adapter out or narrow the shaft to mount it?

 

[gr8scott]

Thanks! The picture helps. Did you just spread the stock adapter out or narrow the shaft to mount it?

It's made of spring steel so it just snapped over the hub adapter.

 

[ksbronco75]

so I’m having this exact same problem. Left turn works, right turn triggers the left blinker. I see on that cancel piece it’s flush with the back of the steering wheel shaft, is that the trick? My overhangs about 1/4” of an inch. Makes me think the bottom circular part of the piece is tripping the blinkers possibly?

 

[jimmyv65]

so I’m having this exact same problem. Left turn works, right turn triggers the left blinker. I see on that cancel piece it’s flush with the back of the steering wheel shaft, is that the trick? My overhangs about 1/4” of an inch. Makes me think the bottom circular part of the piece is tripping the blinkers possibly?

For me, it definitely was the aftermarket wheel adapter. Mine had two pins in it and I was able to open them up to be shaped more like the factory one. That helped the issue.

 

[DirtDonk]

My overhangs about 1/4” of an inch.

So it’s only half on the part that it’s pressed on to? Or is yours extra short?
If it’s about the same size as the one in the picture, but is hanging halfway off, I would certainly think that’s part of the problem.
At least it can’t hurt to try to press it on the rest of the way.

 

[DirtDonk]

Or is yours a different shape adapter completely?
There may be different methods to different brands.

 

[ksbronco75]

So here is mine. I ground it down some yesterday to try and reduce that lip hang over from a 1/4”. It’s under an 1/8”, buy im guessing it needs to be flush? I have an aftermarket steering wheel, I don’t know much about these “grant” spacers I’ve read about, I’m just using the pieces that came with my aftermarket wheel.

 

[jimmyv65]

So here is mine. I ground it down some yesterday to try and reduce that lip hang over from a 1/4”. It’s under an 1/8”, buy im guessing it needs to be flush? I have an aftermarket steering wheel, I don’t know much about these “grant” spacers I’ve read about, I’m just using the pieces that came with my aftermarket wheel.

Grant is an aftermarket steering wheel company and they make the most common adapter. In your pictures, that looks like a Grant adapter.

 

[ksbronco75]

Ok. So does the cancel pieces lip need to be flush with the back of the adapter?

 

[gr8scott]

Ok. So does the cancel pieces lip need to be flush with the back of the adapter?

I would say yes. Grind it down a little more.

 

[BroncoJimbo]

Ok. So does the cancel pieces lip need to be flush with the back of the adapter?

I don't think the depth of the pins or cam is the issue with these Grant hubs. Rather it is the pins themselves and distance from the center of the shaft. I built a plastic plate so I could see what was going on. I posted about this in a recent thread on this same topic. You'll notice the cancel cam is already broken on the bottom.
I really like the stock cam idea and will try that next.

 

[ksbronco75]

I don't think the depth of the pins or cam is the issue with these Grant hubs. Rather it is the pins themselves and distance from the center of the shaft. I built a plastic plate so I could see what was going on. I posted about this in a recent thread on this same topic. You'll notice the cancel cam is already broken on the bottom.
I really like the stock cam idea and will try that next. View attachment 941882

Ha!! Maybe that’s my issue, I didn’t even realize it but mine is broken too in the same spot! I had two pins that came out of the steering wheel adapter but they made a god awful clicking noise, which was probably what broke my signal piece.

 

[jimmyv65]

I don't think the depth of the pins or cam is the issue with these Grant hubs. Rather it is the pins themselves and distance from the center of the shaft. I built a plastic plate so I could see what was going on. I posted about this in a recent thread on this same topic. You'll notice the cancel cam is already broken on the bottom.
I really like the stock cam idea and will try that next. View attachment 941882

Thank Jimbo. This is a good picture. If you have it, could you add a link to the other discussion in this thread? Thanks.

 

[BroncoJimbo]

Thank Jimbo. This is a good picture. If you have it, could you add a link to the other discussion in this thread? Thanks.

https://classicbroncos.com/forums/threads/grant-steering-wheel-spring-needed.326882/#post-3586364
That clicking is the tension pins hitting the arm in the wrong place.

 

[ksbronco75]

https://classicbroncos.com/forums/threads/grant-steering-wheel-spring-needed.326882/#post-3586364
That clicking is the tension pins hitting the arm in the wrong place.

I have a new arch nemesis. How TF do you get this retaining washer to slip over that stud?

 

[Slowleak]

I have a new arch nemesis. How TF do you get this retaining washer to slip over that stud?

I use a nut driver with a small socket to press it on. Probably a 3/8 will do it. Something like this.