I can’t do a simple motor install 😭 motor mounts???

[joshua]

Tell me if anything jumps out.

 

[joshua]

Is this upside down??

 

[Steve83]

All your pics are so close-up that it's hard to tell what some of them show. You should add several pics from farther back so we can put everything into perspective/context. Your last pic seems to show several non-stock parts, so: 1) fill in your signature with ALL the truck's details so you don't have to remember to describe it fully with each thread/post/question; and 2) read the part manufacturer's instructions, & post a link so we can read them.

 

[joshua]

Fixed half my problems. Now it’s way off for line up. Is cross member backwards as well??

 

[DirtDonk]

First of all, you appear to have run into the original problems that everybody seems to have had with the Explorer front serpentine accessory drive system. That’s the lower idler pulley hitting the frame crossmember.
It also appears that you’re running into the same problem that half the people installing an NV 3550 with an Advance Adapters kit ran into with the crossmember lining up.

The two most common solutions for #1 were, originally to notch out that section of frame, but later to replace that with a smaller pulley.
If you already have the smaller pulley, then perhaps your rear crossmember is, in fact, holding things too high. Hard to say, and as Steve said, some wider angle shots would help. Is that the NV3550/AX15 Mount? Or is that an automatic?

Some different ways of possibly fixing the alignment. But it’s hard to tell if you have it higher or low until the body is installed. The other problem we always seem to have is with the valve cover hitting the firewall. So you can’t lean it too far forward and can’t lean it too far back.
Lucky you!

 

[joshua]

First of all, you appear to have run into the original problems that everybody seems to have had with the Explorer front serpentine accessory drive system. That’s the lower idler pulley hitting the frame crossmember.
It also appears that you’re running into the same problem that half the people installing an NV 3550 with an Advance Adapters kit ran into with the crossmember lining up.

The two most common solutions for #1 were, originally to notch out that section of frame, but later to replace that with a smaller pulley.
If you already have the smaller pulley, then perhaps your rear crossmember is, in fact, holding things too high. Hard to say, and as Steve said, some wider angle shots would help. Is that the NV3550/AX15 Mount? Or is that an automatic?

Some different ways of possibly fixing the alignment. But it’s hard to tell if you have it higher or low until the body is installed. The other problem we always seem to have is with the valve cover hitting the firewall. So you can’t lean it too far forward and can’t lean it too far back.
Lucky you!

I wound up flipping the mounting plate. It sits in the frame fine now. But I need to figure out if it’s correct. I’ll do some research. Doesn’t explain the alignment tho. Unless I have the crossmember in backwards as well

 

[joshua]

All your pics are so close-up that it's hard to tell what some of them show. You should add several pics from farther back so we can put everything into perspective/context. Your last pic seems to show several non-stock parts, so: 1) fill in your signature with ALL the truck's details so you don't have to remember to describe it fully with each thread/post/question; and 2) read the part manufacturer's instructions, & post a link so we can read them.

I’ll push it outside tomorrow or so and get pictures. Tiny garage.

 

[joshua]

Shocker, it was ignorance

Thanks to all that helped

 

[bronco italiano]

Did you see the write up in the tech section for explorer front dress?

 

[DirtDonk]

What was your last actual issue? The side side alignment of the bolt holes? Was it just a matter of loosening the motor mounts and twisting things a bit more?
Thanks for the video and follow up. Just wanna make sure I understand all the details.

 

[joshua]

What was your last actual issue? The side side alignment of the bolt holes? Was it just a matter of loosening the motor mounts and twisting things a bit more?
Thanks for the video and follow up. Just wanna make sure I understand all the details.

1st

I had the plate on the bottom of the transmission that adapts to the jeep rubber transmission mount was mounted upside. Pointing at it with finger. Drastically lowering the front of the engine. When I flipped it I had the clearance for the pull from the frame.

2nd

I’m not sure why the engine sat so crooked in the frame. It was off by a lot. I didn’t measure, but if I had to guess it was by 2 inches to the slots on the crossmember. I’m not really sure if the frame, the welded mounts to the frame or the rubber motor mounts off of face book was the issue there.

I really need to call this bronco yard sale. Because I have bought everyone’s left overs of parts to get this far. I have chosen little what parts go on as I buy whatever is a deal and unwanted or left over. I’m a sever at a bbq joint. So you gotta get crafty. Long way of saying I’m guessing these motor motors might be the issue. I did measure the frame to the best of my abilities when I tore it all down, and seemed like all numbers added up.

But with a ratchet strap to the lift I was able to align it. It is over to far on the passenger by an 1/8 I’m sure that is fine.

 

[joshua]

Did you see the write up in the tech section for explorer front dress?

I did. That’s how I was able to put it together. I think I remember reading that most didn’t need to notch the frame. I’m already painted and really didn’t want to do that. As of now I have plenty of clearance after figuring out that I had that plate on upside down

 

[fordguy]

Shocker, it was ignorance

Thanks to all that helped

We call it user error

 

[Broncobowsher]

Couple of thoughts...
You do know the engine is not supposed to be centered in the chassis? It is intentionally offset tot he passenger side by about 2". This offsets the transmission and transfer case as well. Nothing is supposed to be centered. Everything is slightly passenger side. Not sure about the crossmember, never used that one, but I suspect the mounting holes are offset as well. And if it is flipped around, the offset would be on the wrong side. There is a lot of wiggle room on the motor mount slots, even to put some twist in it, but not that much.

The other is I would still look for the small pulley if you don't already have it. You have clearance, a little more would be nice if you can easily get it.

 

[joshua]

Couple of thoughts...
You do know the engine is not supposed to be centered in the chassis? It is intentionally offset tot he passenger side by about 2". This offsets the transmission and transfer case as well. Nothing is supposed to be centered. Everything is slightly passenger side. Not sure about the crossmember, never used that one, but I suspect the mounting holes are offset as well. And if it is flipped around, the offset would be on the wrong side. There is a lot of wiggle room on the motor mount slots, even to put some twist in it, but not that much.

The other is I would still look for the small pulley if you don't already have it. You have clearance, a little more would be nice if you can easily get it.

Centered as in it measures the same distance at the front of the motor as the back of the motor to the either corner of each spring tower. Or parallel with the frame.

And yes I do know it is pushed over to the passenger side. I’m glad you brought that up in case someone came across this in the future and gets confused. I’ll put a picture in this post of how I came to that conclusion. Header was off. Probably not the right way, or as good as measuring as far forward and backward of the motor as possible. But I think it’s ok.

And I didn’t mean the crossmember was backwards. I meant the adapter plate used to attach the rubber mount to the transmission. It’s the gold I’m pointing at in the picture above.