Anyone ever got a bonded title in Colorado?

[Itsa67]

I'm in the process of purchasing another Bronco but it has some paperwork issues. I'm buying it from one of the guys here (very reputable) and he has the title in hand (matches the vehicle) there was just a flaw in the way the title was signed in the distant past so it will need a bonded title. I was just wondering if any of you have gone through the process of getting the bonded title and what kind of success you have had. If it starts looking too painful/expensive I may be in the market for a Colorado title/glove box door but I really don't want to go that way if I can avoid it. Any advice is welcomed. Thanks in advance.

Tony

 

[00gyrhed]

Is he dead?

I am not sure about CO, but the only way to avoid it in TX would be to go to the guy who did not sign it, and have him sign it.

Or if need be write a letter for his signature that says everything you need it to say to get the title cleared. Make it as easy on him as possible. If he has to go out of his way to do anything he may elect not to help you. I even took a letter and a notary to an 82 year old man's house one time so that we could get it cleared. He had sold a truck to a ranch 20 years earlier. They never transferred title and he had never signed it.

The problem with the bonded title is that he might show up someday (or his hiers) and say it was theirs.

I will not buy anything without a clear unbonded title, unless I am going to part it out. I bought a CJ5 25 years ago with a title that was signed but not notarized. Back then texas law required the signature be notarized. The guy I bought it from had only owned it a month and couldn't get it running and gave up, so he did not transfer title. The first guy was an ass and would not even return my calls. All I needed to do was have his own secretary notarize his signature and he wouldn't do it. I took my police officer buddy out to lunch in full uniform. The guy was a dentist. I made an appointment under an assumed name for one o'clock. Me and my uniformed police officer buddy walked into his office asked for him to come to the front and I explained to him how he was in violation of the law. He was pretty pissed and said I needed to pay his secretary for notarizing his signature. I laughed and said it was his signature and that i got to pay for the notary when I sold it.

The bluff worked and he had her notarize it.

I have never understood why he made something so simple so hard.

 

[cracker]

You didn't say what the title problem was/is. So assuming that you have the current title in hand, and there are not any leins or other issues with it, you should be able to get a bonded title without much hassle. I have done so on a couple of previous vehicles w/out any problems. The bond is just insurance against any problems with the vehicle and/or title.

 

[Sbolt19]

Tony is buying the Bronco from me (person A) and the title issue is that the guy I bought it from (person B) bought it from another gal (person C) who bought it from another guy (person D) and none of them ever took $8 & 15 minutes to go down to the court house and get an updated title.

<whew> That was a mouthfull. ;D

D is printed on the title (2000 Colorado title) and sold it to C. C signed it but never took the time to take it down and have the title transfered. She then sold it to B (signed in it in a "dealer" signature block) who did nothing with it and then sold it to A, me (also signed in a "dealer" signature block). I have tried tracking down both person D & C to get the issue squared but neither are anywhere to be found. I have searched the phone book, assessor's office for possible property ownership, internet search, 411 and that is about where I stand. So, if anyone is handy at detective work, I would love to get a little help on finding either one of person D or C.

I have had the DMV, city police, county sheriff & state patrol all run the VIN & it is clean, I just haven't had the time to do the bonded title myself. I have the paperwork to go through it all, but like I said, just haven't had the time to do it.%)

Thats the story on the title.....

;D Gary

 

[smoktf250]

Im in the process of getting one for a motorcycle right now...im almost done.

In the state of colorado what you need is:
Bill of sale
Fill out a bond statement guide
Get an appraisal by an auto dealer.
Get title information request and receipt from department of revenue
Get a colorado certified vin inspection.

After all that you can claim for a bond thru you insurance agency.


After all said and done. I will personally have 370 dollars into getting a title for my motocycle.

 

[Itsa67]

Thanks for chiming in Gary. It sounds even crazier to hear you explain it...that is a lot of writing. If anyone has a good idea on how to track down the person that needs to sign off please let me know. All suggestions are welcome as I am trying to make this a painless as possible. My girl really wants this Bronco so we will find a way to make it happen. The goal is to get it titled as cheap and easy as possible.

 

[00gyrhed]

If you can't get the first guy on the list or his heirs to cooperate you will never get a clear title. As far as the gov is concerned he still owns it.

All of the middle guys do not matter. If you can get the first guy to cooperate, just file in his name for a lost title. They will send him a clean piece of paper. use to be here in texas if the last guy that had actually registered the vehicle wrote you a notarized letter that he parked it years ago (or used it only on the deer lease) and lost the title they would issue a title in the buyers name as long as all of his information matched.
I think TX now makes the seller get the title.

You could buy a glove box and clear title. But I don't want to get that arguement started again. But the number will not match the frame VIN.

You can easily make this title clear for about $100. Look in Hemings motor news. In the back there are guys in Alabama and Maine that will get titles. AL and MA are bill of sale states for older vehicles. Titlles are not required for sales within the state but they will issue a title with nothing more than a bill of sale to a resident of the state if he sells the vehicle outside the state where a title is required. Last I heard these guys charged $100. It is very easy, and the numbers will all match. You get a properly executed alabama title in the mail. You just take it dowmn and register as if you bought it on ebay from some guy in AL.


There are probably more hotrods out there that were registered in their home state with alabama titles than original in state titles. In fact we sometimes joke that there are probably more 32' Ford roqdsters and coupes that started life with allabama titles than Henry even built.

 

[Itsa67]

OOgyrhed you idea intrigues me. I will have to do some looking into it. Thanks everyone and keep the idea's coming!

 

[Sbolt19]

If you can't get the first guy on the list or his heirs to cooperate you will never get a clear title. As far as the gov is concerned he still owns it.

Not true for CO. That is what the bonded title is for. DMV told me that once a title is issued through the bonded route, no one other than the person whom the new title is printed on can claim the vehicle. It is just a process that takes time and money.

I am curious about the AL & ME routes though. Anyone on here in either state know more about this?

 

[needabronco]

I did a quick search, and it 'appears' that you can title a vehicle in NM with a bill of sale. Problem is you'd need to 'sell' it to a NM resident and have it physically inspected here, and play the game. Then I suppose it could be sold again and titled accordingly. I titled and registered mine about 2 months ago and it was something like $55. If I'm right it doesn't sound too bad to do... Read on.

http://www.dmv.org/nm-new-mexico/ti...icle_Purchased_or_Acquired_from_an_Individual

http://www.tax.state.nm.us/forms/mvd/Mvd10002.pdf

http://www.tax.state.nm.us/forms/mvd/mvd10009.pdf

 

[mustangtoby]

Colorado does require a certified vin inspection done on any vehicle brought in from out of state. I usually catch a local county mounty, or state patrolman, but they run a search on the vin #, and also check the vin to make sure they match on the vehicle and the title. If you get someone who doesn't know about the vin on the frame, he wouldn't know where to look. But they also will realize how easy it is to change a glove box door, so they will look pretty hard.

 

[Itsa67]

Colorado does require a certified vin inspection done on any vehicle brought in from out of state. I usually catch a local county mounty, or state patrolman, but they run a search on the vin #, and also check the vin to make sure they match on the vehicle and the title. If you get someone who doesn't know about the vin on the frame, he wouldn't know where to look. But they also will realize how easy it is to change a glove box door, so they will look pretty hard

I thought this was the case. So any of the scenario's involving titling in other states would be a crap shoot. I almost think the simplest thing would be to come up with a clean colorado title/glove box door...but I will still pursue the bonded title deal until the state decides to make it unbearably difficult.

 

[dnewman9]

If its a 70 and the guys name is Dennis let me know. I sold mine back around that time in the Springs, and would be happy to help. Its a long shot but thought I would offer.
If not find a bonding agent. I did a 67 cougar years ago and it was pretty easy.
Dennis

 

[Itsa67]

If its a 70 and the guys name is Dennis let me know. I sold mine back around that time in the Springs, and would be happy to help. Its a long shot but thought I would offer.
If not find a bonding agent. I did a 67 cougar years ago and it was pretty easy.
Dennis

Thanks, I will have to talk to Gary and see what the title says. It is a 1970 by the way. Wouldn't it be great if things could work out so easily as this?
Tony

 

[Sbolt19]

I got excited there for a second. The guy who's name is printed on the title is Terry Lemon. If anyone knows a way to track someone by a previous address, I can get you the address on the title and we can go from there.

 

[Itsa67]

Dang Oh well it was worth a try. Thanks for all the help Gary it definitely makes things easier. I am still holding out hope that the owner will show up somehow.

 

[BroncoGirl87]

I'm in the process of purchasing another Bronco

For the record, you are helping to buy it! It's mine all mine!!!!! lol just kidding hun!

 

[cracker]

If you are having alot of problems and the title is clear, maybe it would just as easy to apply for a lost title?