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Considering Bronco

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Hello all, I've been thinking for some time on a beautiful Bronco on eBay:


What's holding me back on making an offer is AC. I'm spoiled and really gotta have the AC. I've noticed Nolstagic Air doesn't seem to carry a kit for the early Bronco.

Are there any good underdash units out there? What's recommended? Is this going to be quite a difficult proposition?

Thanks for any thoughts on this,
--Casey
 
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g8rb8t

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Don't have a/c myself, but lots of people swear by the BC Broncos set-up or Vintage Air set-up....
 
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Wow, that was fast, thanks! The kits there at bcbroncos look just fine. Now to consider an offer.... NADA guide gives a high value of 15k to the 1972 Bronco. The eBay listing is asking 19,950. I would think the high value of 15k for a (presumabley) near-perfect restored Bronco fairly reasonable in todays (crappy) economy?
 

Rox Crusher

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I read the description and noticed it said the heater didn't work either, now I realize you won't need it but the nice thing about adding the A?C unit from BC is that it has functional heating system too.

If you gonna offer 15k you better have cash and be ready to do it...........that would be a great buy !
 

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Sorry, but I don't agree that it's a good deal. Especially not in today's market. Even though prices have shot up in general over just the last few months, based on local ads I've seen, you could get one almost as nice, but with many more upgrades (and where everything works!) for between $7500 to $12,500 fairly easily.
Maybe not in your locale currently, but they're around.

And I don't care that "we don't need a heater or wipers in our climate". For almost $20k, they damn well better work! And the radio doesn't work either? With a beautiful semi-resto-mod like this, literally EVERYTHING should be in perfect working order.
All that but no new electrical harness? That ain't right.
All that AND a new harness but still things don't all work? That ain't right either.

Yes, it looks beautifully done. Very clean and detailed along with a very detailed advertisement. But I feel it's overpriced by at least a few thou at this level.
I didn't see where the seller said anything about a new wire harness, but I may have missed it.
And don't let classified ads tell you how rare this and that options are, just take a look around and you'll see that they're plentiful and readily available for prices ranging from $1000 (for a BIG fixer-upper) to $14,000 for a fully outfitted and custom-painted rust-free beauty.

Off my soap box (for awhile) now.

Paul
 

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Oh, and welcome too, to classicbroncos KCP! With any luck, you'll soon be posting up as a new Bronco owner, rather than a soon-to-be Bronco owner.

Paul
 
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Thank you all for the food for thought. If I want good defog/defrost I will still want the stock heater core hooked up and working, right? Even if the BC has it's own heat, I assume it won't defog?

Thanks again for the info. I will inquire about the wiring harness prior to an offer.

--Casey
 

Pa PITT

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KCP Welcome aboard ..But you need to read through a lot of post before you spend 20k .. E-Bay has so many rip offs .. I'd never buy one off ebay.. just me but there are a lot like me out there.. Check our Bronco for sale section and watch your local craig list.. Also where are you from ..put it on your signature we don't bit ..If you bought one from a Brother here, you could grip about here until the rest would whip on him for him to make it right ..We've had some that have gotten some Stiff talking too!! .. But you have to be square also ..Since your the new guy!!!
...20k I want it to be just like buying a new truck that maybe had about 25000 miles on it ..Everything correct ..
..Most of us gave $500..Then put 20k into them $1.00 @ a time.. HAVE FUN.
 

Rox Crusher

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Thank you all for the food for thought. If I want good defog/defrost I will still want the stock heater core hooked up and working, right? Even if the BC has it's own heat, I assume it won't defog?

Thanks again for the info. I will inquire about the wiring harness prior to an offer.

--Casey

I believe it is heat, a/c, defrost all in one

search the threads in tech section
 

7elk

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I agree with Papitt, most of us spend far less and then fix everything wrong. If I were going to spend 20,000 on a bronco it ought to be able to cook dinner also.
 

Pa PITT

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Oh Yes BCBronco ac unit is also a defroster ...
There is a post just now about home brew AC or something like that.That has a good post at about the 3rd page says click here to read about the BC AC.
...Get r Done.......
 
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Thanks again all, I've gotten a lot of excellent info just tonight. I'm out of Harrisburg, Oregon. I've always been a "car guy," not a full-on do it yourselfer, but "mildly handy" ("mild" meaning I'd change my own oil, change batt, flush cooling system, but would have a mechanic do brakes & tune-up, etc.)... right now I have a 2004 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi (Got on eBay!), which I love. But have also always loved the original 66-77 Bronco... I've had many vehicles through the years. I seem to get bored and restless with the same ride after a few years...

The real problem with restoring a classic vehicle is that in most cases, it is not an investment. You can spend 30k restoring a 15k vehicle and when you're done it's still only worth 15k. I think the situation with the Bronco on eBay is like that---they've put 20k plus into it, but it is still only valued at a very top dollar value of 15k. And he'd be lucky to get that in this economy, what with the heater and wipers inop.

I have sent some questions off to the seller of the Bronco, we'll see where that leads, and I'll post any updates as they come along. I will also check Broncos for sale here.

Thanks for the warm welcomes, and I'll keep you updated!
--Casey
Harrisburg, Ore.
'04 Dodge Ram
'07 Kawasaki Vulcan Mean Streak
 

DirtDonk

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I like the idea of buying one already done these days. I am a total tinkerer and can fix/replace/rebuild just about anything, but there is always the fun of actually DRIVING something too!
And right you are about bang-for-the-buck. Just doesn't happen when you do it yourself to sell. But if you're doing it to personalize it to keep, that's a different story.

A couple of other things about that Bronco. Little things, like the rear lift gate handle being wrong. Either they put the mechanism back together wrong, or they can't latch it properly. Either way, something's amiss. Correct is to have the latch facing horizontally when latched. Not vertically. Maybe it's just unlatched? Doubt it...
The top also appears to be missing the inner stake-pocket anchor pieces too. Note the holes in the body's rear interior corners with no bolts. And no visible threads means that they probably left those pieces out to make it easier to install the top, without scratching the new paint.
And the engine isn't even painted the correct Ford Blue ('72 should be darker), which isn't any big deal for most, but if he's trying to sell to someone looking for vintage correct restorations, there are quite a few mis-cues. No problem for most of us, as it is definitely a good looking rig. But I'm just saying...
And I don't think his body lines are all as good as he says. Tailgate and passenger door lines are not all that precise. Better than most perhaps, but not perfect.
And those nice "billet" wheels look to be the wrong offset for a LUBR (lifted uncut Bronco). Look like the tires would rub in the rear with a moderate bump.

One thing he does have going for him though, is that it's an Explorer model. Don't think he pointed that out, but it's a nice option when you can find them. Too bad this rig doesn't seem to have any of the interior and trim cues though. A Sport Explorer without chrome trim around the windows? Viperwolf or one of the other experts might know if that was a separate option or not. And didn't '72's have the chrome trim around the top too?
And what about the seats and door panels? Didn't all Sport Explorers come with different colored dash covers, dash color, the cloth seat option and matching door panels?
Makes you wonder whether it was an Explorer at all, or they just didn't want to spring for the full resto. Unless I'm wrong and you could get an Explorer without all the goodies that is.
And speaking of chrome, neither the carpet nor the headliner have the factory chrome trim hold-down cross pieces in place. However, it appears they did go to the trouble of putting custom aluminum trim pieces around the perimeter of the headliner for some reason. I don't believe Ford ever had trim.
So again, nice, but not like original in some desirable places.

A very nice $7K to $10K truck, I'd say. But only IF it all worked.

Paul
 

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Welcome to the site, good to have ya..! Good luck w/your choice...
 

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I agree that buying a complete, or nearly complete one is a lot cheaper, what I've seen over 15 years of watching is that a good 90% of the $15 to $30K rigs, include a really nice paint job to cover the bondo and rust. The fresher the paint, the more I would look for hidden rust.

Don't spend that kind of money on a rig you haven't looked over or had someone who knows Early Broncos look over. Many people have purchased really sweet rigs to find that they were rust buckets that needed another 15k to be fixed right.
Tom
 
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Wow, you guys are awesome! Even I, a newbie, had noticed a possible rubbing issue with the tires. I would want narrower wheels closer to stock, with those beautiful, original Ford wheel covers of that era. Not as fancy as the billet wheels? Maybe, but loaded with the stock charm of that era!

I am forwarding much of these comments to the seller, in my attempt to convince him that it is not worth more than 15k. He is not the person who did the restore, so detailed info about the restore are not available. I fear he has more than 15k invested in it.

You guys are awesome! I will donate to the site whether or not I end up getting a Bronco. The info I've gotten just in this thread is priceless.

--Casey
 

Stoneman

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I purchased a Bronco from Tom Carper (The Bronco Ranch) who personally assessed its condition before he bought it. If you truly want a truck that you can trust, consider contacting Tom. He is beyond reasonable on price and although it takes a while (he has a full time job, wife, 3 kids soon and only 2 hands) you are going to get a jewel.

PM me if you want to get more detail about what he is doing for me and what he is charging. Every project is unique, so you would have to talk to Tom to discuss pricing on what you are looking for. I couldn't be more pleased working with Tom.

Tom was a referral from another poster here whose build preceded mine.

www.thebroncoranch.com
 
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Thanks again all. The seller has not as of this writing responded to my further questions. Perhaps I tweaked him off a bit. But for a big-ticket item like this, I think a seller should be ready for some tough questions.

For now I'll cool my jets and perhaps get a Bronco sometime in the future!
Thanks again!
--Casey
 
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