Dropped a carb stud nut in the intake

[malcolmzilla]

I just knocked carb stud nut in the intake when mounting the carb to mock up a hard line from the pump, went in on the passenger side and forward I think. Sonofa...

I fished around with a magnet but couldn't get it out, so I assume it made down to a port and the intake has to come off to locate it? %)

TIA

 

[Jeepster]

yeah.....all that. maybe pull sparkplugs and fish magnet in hole? wild thought?

 

[malcolmzilla]

Hmm never though about that, would a nut like that get through an intake valve? I will take a look, worth a try, it been a rolling chassis for some time so I'm sure the lifters have bled down and the valves are mostly closed.

Parts store opens at 10 tomorrow for new gaskets otherwise... %)

 

[Jeepster]

Hmm never though about that, would a nut like that get through an intake valve? I will take a look, worth a try, it been a rolling chassis for some time so I'm sure the lifters have bled down and the valves are mostly closed.

Parts store opens at 10 tomorrow for new gaskets otherwise... %)

Yeah, your right about the valves. Forgot.....Gasket time.

 

[SaddleUp]

As long as you don't run it then you should be able to get it by just pulling the intake. Many years ago (23 years or so) I dropped a nut in the carb and didn't know it. I just couldn't find it so I went to the nut can and dug up another. 2 days later I pulled all the plugs and replaced them as most of them were smashed. That nut managed to bounce back and forth from one cylinder to the next and even bounced across the intake to the other side. I never did find out the extent of the damage as I put new plugs in it and drove it for a couple more years. Apparently it wasn't enough damage to have any big effect beyond the plugs.

 

[Madgyver]

if its a stock cam that 7/16" will not go pass the intake valve. The intake valves don't open that much, It's a different story if it was running.

 

[malcolmzilla]

Ok got the manifold off, found it on top of the #6 valve, apparently it did a 90 degree turn rather than head straight for #2.

 

[bronco977]

That is a situation that I refer to as a "character-building experience". Kinda like when I dropped a 1/2" socket down the distributor hole. You can either curse madly and throw innocent tools, or you can look upwards and thank the Lord for the chance to build some character. As for me.... I'm still looking for the tools that flew.

 

[SaddleUp]

That is a situation that I refer to as a "character-building experience". Kinda like when I dropped a 1/2" socket down the distributor hole. You can either curse madly and throw innocent tools, or you can look upwards and thank the Lord for the chance to build some character. As for me.... I'm still looking for the tools that flew.

Cut small holes in the bottom of the sheetrock to get the tools back out. ;D

 

[daddyg]

That is a situation that I refer to as a "character-building experience". Kinda like when I dropped a 1/2" socket down the distributor hole. You can either curse madly and throw innocent tools, or you can look upwards and thank the Lord for the chance to build some character. As for me.... I'm still looking for the tools that flew.

Been there, done that..

 

[malcolmzilla]

Oh yeah, my dawgs ears were pinned back at the stream of profanity coming out of my mouth when the magnet failed to produce the nut. :-X He wanted out of the garage after that... ;D

Now the freakin distributor won't seat all the way in with the oil pump drive shaft in... Need the distributor in as I'm trying to bend my pump to carb hard line... I managed to pull it with a bit of split vinyl tubing and get the distributor in. I sure hope the shaft and dsitributor go back in... when I find TDC on #1 ?:?

 

[iwlbcnu]

Shame you pulled the intake, as you could have fished it out. Valves wouldn't let it get into the cylinder.

Saddleup, I'm sorry but no way a nut traveled in the engine like that. It would have gone out the exhaust before it went back thru an intake valve. Intake sucks in, exhaust out, kinda like pissing against the wind.

 

[SaddleUp]

Shame you pulled the intake, as you could have fished it out. Valves wouldn't let it get into the cylinder.

Saddleup, I'm sorry but no way a nut traveled in the engine like that. It would have gone out the exhaust before it went back thru an intake valve. Intake sucks in, exhaust out, kinda like pissing against the wind.

You are not the only one that has been skeptical or that has said it was impossible. Which is okay as I really don't care whether you believe it or not. (I wouldn't believe it either if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes) I'm the one that pulled the plugs out and all but 2 of them were smashed or had evidence of having been hit though. (If I recall right it was the front 2 that didn't show any evidence of having been hit) Either that nut traveled between the cylinders or I dropped several nuts down into the carb. The later I find unlikely as I didn't have a bunch of nuts availabale to drop in it at the time. I think SecondChance saw it as well. Not sure if he would remember it or not though as he was probably only about 14 at the time.

 

[asmith140]

dropped nut

I'm with Saddle Up, ran a small block ford in c-gas for several years; made a pass at the drags one day when the motor went funky, pulled intake & heads and found many dents & gashes in my forged pistons on both banks. Found what was left of a small foreign object (we think it used to be a nut) on top of #2 piston. It had to have migrated through the intake. Strange things happen to good folks.
Art

 

[68 Broncoholic]

Saddleup thats crazy your motor didn't blow. Years back a friend of my dad's was helping him build up his race motor and dropped a lock washer down the intake. He didn't say anything. My dad reved up the motor to 4000 or so and it sucked the washer into the #2 piston and brought the motor to a fast hault lifting the front tires off the ground a few inches. The piston swoll up and took a 12# sledge to get it out. Sleeved it and sold the car thining it was toast. Years later we saw the same car sounding sweet as ever. We caught up to the guy and he said its been runnin great ever since! As he peeled out over the horizon... %)

 

[daddyg]

Now the freakin distributor won't seat all the way in with the oil pump drive shaft in... Need the distributor in as I'm trying to bend my pump to carb hard line... I managed to pull it with a bit of split vinyl tubing and get the distributor in. I sure hope the shaft and dsitributor go back in... when I find TDC on #1 ?:?

The distributor should seat if you turn the crank a little or bump the engine with the starter.

 

[SaddleUp]

Saddleup thats crazy your motor didn't blow. Years back a friend of my dad's was helping him build up his race motor and dropped a lock washer down the intake. He didn't say anything. My dad reved up the motor to 4000 or so and it sucked the washer into the #2 piston and brought the motor to a fast hault lifting the front tires off the ground a few inches. The piston swoll up and took a 12# sledge to get it out. Sleeved it and sold the car thining it was toast. Years later we saw the same car sounding sweet as ever. We caught up to the guy and he said its been runnin great ever since! As he peeled out over the horizon... %)

I thought so too. We never did find the nut so I'm guessing it either embeded itself in one of the pistons or finally found its way out an exhaust valve. I remember feeding a magnet into each piston thruough the plug hole to try and drag it out and then turned it over several times without the plugs in before we finally put the new plugs in. Even then I expected it to blow up within a few days but that turned into a couple of years. Then dummy me I sold the car. A 69 Barracuda in good condition these days would be worth a pretty penny.

 

[malcolmzilla]

Thanks daddyg, that will probably do it, just was quite flustered at the time, had just finally dug the nut out and got the intake back on.