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Firewall insulation - needed?

plothead

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Hi Folks
me ---> 1970 Bronco Sport in southern california
I'm slowly putting things back together, and I scoured the forums, but I'm unsure about installing the firewall insulation.
I gather some early years didn't have it, but most originally did after 67...

So, do you all think it's worth putting in?
Does it really help with sound? Heat/cool under in the cabin?

Thanks for any input...
CD
 

joebronco73

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I believe it will help with some heat, but likely not much noise mitigation. From what I can tell, the firewall needs to be bare to do it, which may be a deterrence for you. I have the kit from Tom's, but intend to cut it for ease of installation (slipping around column, etc).
 

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What are your goals for the Bronco?

Both thermal and noise insulation are absolutely worth it if you're wanting a more modern driving experience. Not all products sold as insulation do what they're sold to do. Lot of hype and marketeering going on in this field.
 
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plothead

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Thanks for the thoughts.
I'd say my plan is a restomod that will be a weekend and medium-use vehicle—almost entirely city/highway. I don't see dirt or any challenges for this truck.
Right now, everything is out - engine, dash, steering, etc. It's just got the no-top, no-hood body on a rolling chassis.
I've just rebuilt the heater box and supply/fresh air vents. Next, I'm installing wiring, which is where the insulation question comes in.

If it makes a difference in sound, I'm for that. It's been 20 years since I drove it, so I can't recall how bad the noise was.....

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ntsqd

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I'd suggest some research. Which will likely take you down the car stereo noise rabbit hole and the racing heat management rabbit hole. Might also look at the thread below on the Agaso product.
Some brands that I'd start with:
DEI
LizardSkin
Noico
Kilmat
 
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plothead

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A+, team. Thanks for the input. I'll poke around some more.
 

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If you intend to drive it for more than a few minutes at a time, or get on a freeway for more than a few minutes at a time, or drive it at all in the summer, or drive it with the top on, then I say that firewall insulation is not only a good thing, but it’s absolutely critical to the future enjoyment of your Bronco.
In fact, adding way more than the factory did is good for both sound and heat.
But especially heat!
I gather some early years didn't have it, but most originally did after 67...
Because FORD realized very quickly that it was an absolute necessity.
So, do you all think it's worth putting in?
Does it really help with sound? Heat/cool under in the cabin?
Yes, and yes. Probably more with heat than with sound. But certainly both to an extent.

Generally speaking, the best practice for anyone building a bronco, is to insulate the living crap out of the inside of a bronco.
It’s basically an echo chamber and a heat magnet.
The engine, exhaust, the outdoor temperature, the drivetrain, reflected road heat and noise all transmit heat (or cold) and noise through the uninsulated body panels.
So unless you prefer the bare metal look of the inside of a plain Bronco (which is pretty retro-cool by the way), or still young and noise and temperature extremes don’t bother you as much as they do when we get older, the best way to gain comfort for you and the family and any other passengers riding along, is to use extensive sounding application over every interior body panel from the tailgate to the firewall and cowl. Then regular insulation over that to block the heat. Then carpet, or full floor mats as you prefer.

Taking advantage of all modern technology and methods of minimizing all of this is a good thing.
Hard to stress it enough.
 

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Worth it to note that the LizardSkin products can be applied to the underside of the tub. A local friend has done the tub of his Scout 80 on the bottom with it, but then Tricycle Motors made an appearance and the project got stalled before it became driveable. So no experience yet with that set of products.

Figure that heat radiates out of the transmission and transfer-case as well. Do more than just the firewall. And think about how hot that pavement that you're driving over in the Summer can get. Radiant heat off of it hitting the underside of the tub is significant.
 
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