Ford lightning motor?

[Tenezman]

Does anyone know anyone whose tried this? Does deck height, or width or depth pose any interesting problems? Thanks,
C

 

[Skuzzlebutt]

People are using Lightning intakes on regular 351s because they fit easier than stock intakes.

 

[RKM]

What Lightning motor? 93-95 GT40 351? or were you thinking of the newer one 99-04 supercharged 5.4? The first one shouldn't be that bad. People do 351 swaps all the time. With the deck height the intake may rub the stock hood. Now the newer 5.4's I have no idea. But I would like to see one. That could be one powerful SOB.

 

[67ster]

The 5.4 has gobs of torque at low RPMs , good for wheeling . The biggest problem is width , those OHC heads hang way out . I'm sure it can be done but it's going to take some effort .

 

[Waverous]

Does anyone know anyone whose tried this? Does deck height, or width or depth pose any interesting problems? Thanks,
C

That would be a great swap if you can find an early 90's Lightning donor vehicle:

1. A 351W roller block
2. Matched GT40 intakes and heads
3. Complete EFI setup
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[Skuzzlebutt]

Swapping in the 5.4 would be possible, I suppose. It would require a helluva lot of creativity, and a manic obsession. Swapping in a 460 would be easier. I've got a pic I can't post comparing the old and the new motors side by side. It makes the 302 look like something you would find in a Miata.

 

[maverickconner]

I looked into this a little for the 5.4, the problem is the width. It would do great, ok close on the height, but would dam near touch the fender wells on each side. The exhaust man would just break down and cry at the sight of it....

 

[Tenezman]

Well being that I have a 351 C in there now with no fenderwells it might be a possibility...as far as touching the shock hoops or getting exhaust to fit it might be another problem...thanks,
C

 

[maverickconner]

Sweet, find you a wrecked donor with a zf 5 speed, and switch everything,,,hehheeheheee sweet.....

 

[4byford]

Re: Re: Ford lightning motor?

That would be a great swap if you can find an early 90's Lightning donor vehicle:

1. A 351W roller block
2. Matched GT40 intakes and heads
3. Complete EFI setup
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   The Lightning 351W uses a flat tappet cam, NOT a roller cam, like the standard D4TE 351 blocks had in 94-97...-

 

[Waverous]

Re: Re: Re: Ford lightning motor?

The Lightning 351W uses a flat tappet cam, NOT a roller cam, like the standard D4TE 351 blocks had in 94-97...-

Wow - that isn't what Ford Racing says - they said all true GT40 351W in either a Mustang or Lightning are rollers. Guess I'll call them back up and clarify what I was told

 

[4byford]

I can't verify with a Lightning block of my own, but have read/been told of this enough times to believe it to be true. The Lightning came out in 93 (before the D4TE roller 351W blocks) and was a unique block; Ford Motorsport sold it as a short block for a while and the catalog specified a non roller block with a flat tappet FMS hydraulic lifter cam...
If I am wrong please correct me....

 

[Waverous]

Heck I may have misunderstood whatI was told as well

 

[Broncobowsher]

Late model 5.4 supercharged engine. Do a search for 4.6 engine and add about 20% to the pain in the ass factor.

Old school 5.8. Do it, just use a mustang computer. The lightening computer isn’t mass air, only works with the way big E4OD that will not fit under a bronco (I know, I took a tape measure to one once), and on top of that, has no provision in the computer logic for the low range gearing in the transfer case.

 

[JFX]

Some of the Lightnings in '93 (kind of hap-hazard number wise) and the rest of Gen1 production ('94-'95) had "roller ready" (meaning that they were ready for the installation of a roller cam) blocks. Look for the F4TE stamped above the starter.

There is a flat tappet cam that we call the "Hot Rod" cam that works wonders. I am going to be installing it on my '94 Lightning this Summer.

You can look at the Lightning board, they can answer just about any question about the 351.

www.nloc.net


Good Luck with the swap.


JFX

 

[cbfomoco]

Just out of courisity is the bolt patten diff for the 4.6 and the 5.8 than for the 302 and 351?? well the motor mounts and the bell housing bolts??

 

[BC boy]

Bellhousing is the same pattern, I don't know about mounts. There are different flywheels, so look into that.

 

[4byford]

Modular engines (4.6,5.4,6.8) have a different bellhousing and motor mount pattern than small block Fords (later 289s, 302s, 351Ws).
5.8 is just the silly metric description of a 351 Windsor. Funny that WE won the war, and all the losers who use the metric system are now pushing it on us... I digress.

 

[SACHEM]

That is correct. That cam is also on my wish list but right now the "L" is the second child. The Bronco gets all of my money.

Some of the Lightnings in '93 (kind of hap-hazard number wise) and the rest of Gen1 production ('94-'95) had "roller ready" (meaning that they were ready for the installation of a roller cam) blocks. Look for the F4TE stamped above the starter.

There is a flat tappet cam that we call the "Hot Rod" cam that works wonders. I am going to be installing it on my '94 Lightning this Summer.

You can look at the Lightning board, they can answer just about any question about the 351.

www.nloc.net


Good Luck with the swap.


JFX

 

[Skuzzlebutt]

Modular engines (4.6,5.4,6.8) have a different bellhousing and motor mount pattern than small block Fords (later 289s, 302s, 351Ws).
5.8 is just the silly metric description of a 351 Windsor. Funny that WE won the war, and all the losers who use the metric system are now pushing it on us... I digress.

There were many countries that won the war. All but one of them use metric.